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Posted by DeltaFlyer on :

All the pictures and diagrams I've found label the shuttlebay on the Nova class as being in the traditional Intrepid- class location, on a lower deeck at the rear of the ship. But didn't the first officer of the Euqinox in "Equinox Part II" say that they could escape the doomed ship in a shuttle. "The shuttlebay is just two decks down."
Does anyone officially know where the Nova class shuttlebay is?

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

Well, you realize that the Equinox is only about 4 decks thick, if even that. So it is quite possible that the shuttlebay is only "two decks down."

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

The Equinox has eight decks, per the MSD. Which means that a) the crewman had no idea what he was talking about, or b) the Equinox *had* a shuttle somewhere on deck three. given all the banging up the ship had been through, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had retrofitted a one-shuttle room for emergiencies, or to replace nonfunctional escape pods or shuttles.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

To wit:
http://thefsd.tripod.com/sttm/equinox.html

Mark

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

My apologies, I just looked at a pic of the Equinox a few minutes after I posted, and you're all quite right. I retract my previous statement.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Look more closely to THIS PICTURE...

Is it me or is the bridge on deck 2??

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

I can't, for some reason.

Anyway, Rick's own sketch would place shuttlebay on deck four, and bridge on deck one. There are two decks between deck one and deck four - so "the shuttle is just two decks down" isn't technically incorrect, it's just a weird way to use the lingo.

And the shuttlebay could easily take two decks inside, even if the space door is only one deck high. So if there is a doorway on deck 3 to the bay, and perhaps ladders leading from this door to deck 4 where the shuttle is resting, then the statement of "two decks down" is technically perfectly correct. The shuttlebay can be reached by going down two decks, plus a set of internal ladders that does not deserve special mention.

Was a two-deck shuttlebay featured in the MSD? It'd look really odd if the bay was just one deck high.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Altair is referring to the first picture in that Equinox design article, whose perspective intones that the bridge is sunken below the surrounding level of deck one. It certainly looks that way, but if it *is* sunken than I doubt it's by a full deck...

Mark

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

Yes, but if the bridge is sunken, the remaing 'ring' probably wouldn't be considered a deck, so technically, the bridge is still on One.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

The "ring" that extends above the bridge probably contains equipment and has a corridor underneath that cirlces the bridge. The extending portion of the "ring" is probably included in Deck One, as are the bridge and that corridor.

I'm assuming alot here, I know.

edit: OK. Looking at the beauty shot again, the bridge appears to be on the same deck as the raised area that comes off of the saucer. The highest level with windows. So we've got deck one containing the bridge and what look to be either big crew quarters or some type of lounges. Possibly the briefing room and/or the ready room. That whole raised area is deck one. The relatively thin extending ring could be anything.

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

Mark:
On the plans I'm working on (based on the MSD), the shuttlebay is indeed on deck 4 - and there isn't enough "head room" to give it 2-deck height. The next set of doors up is the cargo bay, the next after that is actually the impulse drive. So the crewman had to be wrong.

Never rule out bad writing...

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Posted by Gammera on :

what if they mean the yacht/areo-wing thing under the primary hull, it looks like it is on deck 4, but what if to get in you have to go to deck 3?

Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Well, I made a larger scan of the deck breakdown in question. It gives a better view of where the shuttlebay is and how one can get to it:
http://www.thepurplebuffalo.net/~mark/Novadeck.jpg

There certainly seems to be enough room to have at least part of the shuttlebay be two decks tall, and thus for the crewman's wording to work.

Also, Rick once communicated to his newsgroup that his deck heights are 16' and 18' for decks 3 and 4. Does that help any?

Mark

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :

That "ring" around the bridge is exactly the same design as that of the Defiant. And the Defiant's bridge was definitely on deck one.

It's just a slightly different arrangement -- my guess is that that sunken area has a some sensors or something. And if you take a look at a side diagram, that top portion does look a little taller than one deck. So the sunken part is the "normal" ceiling height, and the raised part has sensors or whatever.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I see your point...

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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

I think of all the new design with all their fantastic fire power the nova is my favorite. Maybe this is because I am kind of sick of the battleship mentatlity where success in combat depends on how bad your ship is....

Am I the only person that feels this way?

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Yes. You are.

You DO know the Nova is a planetary research vessel, don't you?

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