[ June 04, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
An Akira-esque look eh? Interesting. I like the name for it. The Enterprise-minus A. I'm gonna use that from now on.
Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
Mr. Eaves says that they have completed the interiors first and are designing the exterior of this new Enterprise. Is this the first time that the design process has started with the interiors for a primary ship for a series in Star Trek?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Ent Minus A is cool, but I shall be using another moniker for this Enterprise: The Pre-E.
Mark
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Or we could call the TOS ship the Ent-AA and the new one the Ent-AAA. 'Course, then we might have to call Picard's most recent ship the Ent-DD. Everyone remember the USS Pamela Anderson? *L*
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I suspect that sets and exterior visuals are usually designed concurrently. There are time pressures, after all. (This is just a suspicion, of course.)
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Interiors, would, in most cases at least, come before exteriors, I think. The sets need to be finished before shooting, which for most big pilots (like Enterprise) could take place up to 6 months before airing. The exterior doesn't need to be finalized until VFX work starts, which I imagine won't be for another month or so. The Ent-E, for instance, got an interior shortly before an exterior, as evidenced by the slightly inaccurate MSD in First Contact and the whole 24 decks/26 decks mess. Likewise, some of the video monitors on Voyager showed a rotating image of the ship that was a little different to the final version (ie nacelle positions).
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
What is the "TMP" ship that had been considered for use? I've never heard that?
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
The S.S. Enterprise.
http://titan.spaceports.com/~nzcabac/PreFederation/Enterprise.htm
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
OH YAH...thank goodness they didn't use that...
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
I prefer Ent -A because of it's demeaning title.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Speaking on the interiors versus the exteriors, I have the Enterprise-D blueprints. In the interview booklet that came with it, Andrew Probert made a remark that he was supervising the construction of the bridge and other sets when David Gerrold came into his office and saw a concept drawing of what the Enterprise-D might look like. Gene Roddenberry approved the design direction after seeing it.
Evidently, in The Next Generation, the interior set construction was already started before there was even a completed final design for the starship herself.
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
Sounds like the ship is going to look somewhat like Friendship One...
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
In what is certainly going to make TrekWeb look like downright idiots, they're now promoting fan art now confirmed as from the TrekBBS.com art forum as apparently-leaked design sketches. *giggle*
http://talk.trekweb.com/articles/2001/06/05/991764588.html
http://trekbbs.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001201.html
Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
I don't know if I should create a new thread for this or what, but a few comments on the S.S. Enterprise:
Why did whoever drew up those schematics think that the people would inhabit that cutesy little pod thing extended away from the "engine" rings?
If I were designing a starship that looked like that, I'd have it set up a wee bit differently. I'd put the crew and cargo areas in the rings and the main reactor/power generation system in the pod. Anyway, a couple of reasons, and I know there are problems with some of my logic, but bear with me here.
One, and rather obvious, is that in case there was an accident and the reactor was going to explode, it's far away from the crew, and could be ejected easily.
Two, although in reality I think more than one support is necessary to properly distribute the mass and motion, I always thought those rings spun, creating gravity of sorts for the ship's inhabitants. It might be more power economical than maintaining a grav field, if that ship is as behind the times as I think.
But what about that pod in the center of the rings you say? I think it's a Bussard ramscoop. It collects interstellar gases with an intense electromagnetic field and shoots them back to the main reactor (possibly via linear particle acceleration through that connecting tube, but I think that would take too much energy).
If there were a solar flare or a wave of intense radiation, the crew might be able to use the magnetic field as a barrier or a shield.
Anyway, my thoughts. Now back to your regularly scheduled posting.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
The general assumption is that the ring is actually the ship's warp drive. Though I don't think that's based on anything.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
About John Eaves nixing the idea of using the TMP SS Enterprise
WELL of COURSE... if this series is in the hands of Mr. Anti-continuity himself - Branon Braga... he would NOT want any links to the 'actual' past of Trek...
Funny, though - he's fucking it up for himself because those ships were supposed to be 'famous' Enterprise ships... and I guess that means that the Enterprise A- wasn't as famous as even the 'spaceshuttle' Enterprise!?!
Unless, and it just hit me - the TMP DVD directors cut is coming out now at the END of the year - they'll probably stick a picture of the Enterprise A- in there instead of the SS Enterprise... revisionist historians...
Ahhhh look I really couldn't give a crap if between series there isn't ABSOLUTE continuity - its just what got me in Voyager there was discontinuity WITHIN the one show.
Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :
I personally like the SS Enterprise. I love the idea that the rings could have been some type of experimental warp nacelle that wasn't practical for some reason. It could have been replaced with a proven duel nacelle design after trials were finished. The design in general is a little tin cannish but so was the original Enterprise. I believe it could be done tastefuly to preserve continuity, but we are talking about Berman and his minions.
[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: bear ]
Posted by pIn'a' Sov (Member # 293) on :
I�m sorry, but this ship is not the movie enterprise, is it? Isn�t this the design by Matt Jeffries of a concept for the original enterprise? I thought the TMP design was this:
http://members.nbci.com/pinasov/fleet/phaseIIprot.jpg
(it�s a xoom, so copy-and-paste everyone)
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Eaves meant the ship in TMP. An image of this ship was displayed on the rec deck.
[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: Spike ]
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
And anyway, we can't blame Eaves for anything. Although B&B care less for continuity than previous bigwigs, there are still people like Okuda. I trust Okuda, Westmore and Eaves to give Enterprise a convincing 22nd century look and keeping up with continuity best they can.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
For ****'s sake, they ARE the previous bigwigs. Christ on a molybdenum crutch!
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
pIn'a' Sov: That's a design for Phase II, the aborted series that sort of turned into the movie. The design is by Ralph McQuarrie.
Posted by pIn'a' Sov (Member # 293) on :
Yeah, I know, that�s why I named the pic phaseII, but wasn�t the design featured in the discussions for the TMP movie-enterprise?
Well, that�s moot anyway if he meant the ship shown in TMP.
Posted by Wes1701E (Member # 212) on :
quote:
"The Ent negative-A has something of an Akira-esque look to it..."
I AM A VERY HAPPY PERSON!!
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
I AM NOT!!
