These are the requested screencaps I made of some of the ships from this episode that have certain questions marks, etc.
The first picture shows the initial fleet flyby. In the bottom left hand corner is an Akira Class, with the Defiant above it.
This shows an Excelisior being tugged by an unknown ship-type, or at least not one I recognise... On the left are regular Fighters.
On the bottom right of this image is much loathed Curry-type
This is a close-up image of some of the ships in the background. Other than number 3., being a K'tinga class Klingon battlecruiser, the others remain too obscure to make out, although 2. is probably a Miranda.
The remaining images show the USS Centaur
[ July 07, 2001: Message edited by: The Red Admiral ]
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Nice ones, Red.
BTW, that's a Federation tug. (Identified in Fact Files, no proper class name known as yet.) The model uses various parts, including Intrepid-class impulse engines and a Danube-class upper sensor pod. And the nacelles, they come from the Rommie warbird.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I think I've spotted a second Curry-type in this scene. In the 1st image its the ship in the upper left, above the BOP & to the left of the K'tinga. In the 2nd image it is the one closest to the SKY ONE logo. In the 4th image it's the one labeled #1
u can just about make out the shape of the excelsior bow & a sauser sitting on top, but the nacelles look a little different...
what do you think?
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
I'd like to see a little more detail on the tug but the more I look at it in the screen cap the more it makes me think that it is a Klingon design. It looks green, and has red glowing nacelles.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Fact Files say it's Federation.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
It did cross my mind Reverend that the ship you pointed out might be another Curry-type. At first I thought it may be two objects, one behind the other, but on closer scrutiny it does indeed fit into the rather chaotic looking Curry bracket.
Regarding the Centaur though. I've always thought of it as a rather nasty and lazy kitbash, and I have avoided giving this class-type a lot of attention, but on close inspection, and duly studying the footage over and over to get the screencaps, it suddenly occured to me that this, bizarrely, has to be one of the most beautiful and majestic ships I've ever seen.
!!?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Red: Do you have the Genrations DVD? We're trying to figure out anything we can about the Miranda at the end. (Check out the recent thread) There's a point where a screencap at just the right moment might help.
Thanks again.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
at first I thought it was the proto-voyager, but when I watched the video it was obviously a curry...maybe. If someone could knock off a half decent mpg then we might get a better idea.
Yeah, I've always loved the Centaur. I especially like the little triangles under the sauser...just like the conni & sovereign, nice touch I like to think of this ship as a Rennisance, no offence to ASDB's design btw.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
I'm desperate to 'get DVD compliant', but alas I haven't got round to it. I'm still solidly immersed in VHS. I find it kind of heartbreaking when I ponder the fact that I have over 1000 video tapes, and what a mountainous task it would be to replace them with DVDs. D'oh!!! One day perhaps...
But I've perused this footage closely before, but I will do so again and see if any useful caps can be made.... I'll get back to you soon.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
The relevant caps are now in the 'Generations ending' thread.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Once again: Thanks for the Generations caps. Too bad we didn't get anything more from them.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Thanks RED!
OK, another ask... the Ships on Admiral Leyton's wall in "Homefront" and "Paradise Lost"!
That is, if you can.
Thankyou!
Andrew
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
No problem AndrewR, good idea, I'll get right on it!
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Nothing very exciting here unfortunately. We have what looks like an Ambassador on the left of the picture, and in my view a couple of Excelsiors. This was the only useful shot I could get of this wall.
Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
Hmm. Well, I see an Ambassador the left, an Exelsior on the right, but there is there just the slightest possibility the center ship is a Constitution-refit?
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I'm pretty sure that the one on the far left is a Galaxy, the middle one is definatly a constitution & the one on the far right is an excelsior.
these were probable just existing model kits sprayed gold, so I dougt that there is an ambassador here given that the kit wasn't around at the time.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Galaxy, Connie refit, Excelsior.
Posted by spyone (Member # 351) on :
The far left ship does not look like a Galaxy to me. It does look more like an Ambassador, though I'm not certain that's what it is.
As to where they got the models, weren't there some models that looked a lot like that used as set-dressing on TNG and in the movies?
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: Fact Files say it's Federation.
The Fact Files have put the Niagara's third nacelle in the wrong position from where it was on the model among other numerous mistakes. I'd take my grain of salt with them.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Looking at these ships closely again, I am swayed more in the direction of Galaxy for the model on the far left, thanks to all your input. The middle one is possibly a Connie refit, but I'm uncertain. The right one is quite obviously an Excelsior.
Posted by pIn'a' Sov (Member # 293) on :
As for the next item on our wishlist, how about:
Maquis fleet in "Preemptive strike) and models in Picard�s room in "Tapestry" (Berndt�s old wish)
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Frank's got a pile of small "Preemptive Strike" caps, but as the forum's self-appointed Peregrine-identification-guru, I can tell you straight out that getting bigger ones won't enlighten us any more than what we know already.
Picard's "Tapestry" models, on the other hand...
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Frank's got a pile of small "Preemptive Strike" caps, but as the forum's self-appointed Peregrine-identification-guru, I can tell you straight out that getting bigger ones won't enlighten us any more than what we know already.
Picard's "Tapestry" models, on the other hand...
Posted by pIn'a' Sov (Member # 293) on :
Are you sure The_Tom? I�ve seen Frank�s caps, and they are clear but so small. I would like to see bigger, there are some weird things with that fleet.
I would also like to see a bigger cap of the okudagram behind Riker and Pressman(?) in "The Pegasus", the one with the infamous 4 nacelles. Once again Frank�s cap is good, but small (Yes I�m concerned about size , but only with starship-pics)
Also, in "In the hands of the prophet" we get to see a model of the early warp ship from the encyclopedia, that would be nice to see caps of.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
The reason the ship in that Sisko picture looks like an Ambassador to some people is probably the fact that the saucer appears round. But that's just because of the angle the ship is at.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
just look at the nacelles, they don't have the characteristic ambassador dorsal, cutouts. And the ambasador doesn't have the dovetail shaped shuttlebay on the saucer.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
I'll take a look at those 'Tapestry' models, but I know for a fact that that particular episode (for me) isn't the best quality. I think it's second generation and I never got round to retaping it. But I'll have look, and post anything useful.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Which 'models' you are referring to? I must have missed them. Because I cannot find anything appropriete to 'cap' in Tapestry.... Sorry, please advise further.
Posted by pIn'a' Sov (Member # 293) on :
I�m sorry, I only know what Berndt told me, there apparently were models in Picard�s room.
