Are those Klingon symbols the name of the ship? Can anyone translate it?
And in which episode was the class-name "Vor'cha" mentioned?
Posted by O Captain Mike Captain (Member # 709) on :
it says 'do not spit here'
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
AFAIK, no Klingon fonts were ever supposed to make any sense.
Posted by O Captain Mike Captain (Member # 709) on :
well, no TNG klingon fonts were. Okuda has stated they make no sense, and that most of the characters are rotated or reversed randomly.
However, the TOS Klingon fonts has a well circulated fandom alphabet that has been adapted into Okrands Klingon alphabet. for example, the symbols of Jefferies' D-7 model really say 'D-7'
but that has nothing to do with these.
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
To my knowledge "Vor'cha-class" was first mentioned in "Way of the Warrior" by Worf.
Posted by newark (Member # 888) on :
I presume to think the symbols in an actual Klingon fleet would form the word (s) for the governing body of the fleet (ex. "Klingon Empire") or the name of the ship (ex. "I.K.S. Ya'Vang").
On the Bird of Preys, there is writing on the spherical command hull as well.
Posted by NeghVar (Member # 62) on :
Was this ship not called the "Bortas" in the episode the Mind's Eye...?
Almost sounds like a bastardization of Vor'Cha?
Later! Art
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
it says "i break for poontang" (it's funny: "break" instead of "brake" because of the fact that their klingons!).
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I remember someone, in either TNG or DS9 (I think it was O'Brien, and I think it was in DS9) said "It would take a Vor'cha class attack cruiser to do any real damage."
Or something along those lines. But I don't know if it was before or after the aforementioned instance in "Way of the Warrior".
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
That quote is from an episode in the Dominion War, IIRC. Near as I can recall, "Vor'cha" was first mentioned in WotW, but accepted by fandom for years beforehand.
Mark
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
That was Dukat in the DS9 epidose Return to Grace. He was telling Kira that the complex where both were going was destroyed by a Klingon Bird of Prey and not a Vor'cha Class.
Posted by NeghVar (Member # 62) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: That quote is from an episode in the Dominion War, IIRC. Near as I can recall, "Vor'cha" was first mentioned in WotW, but accepted by fandom for years beforehand.
Mark
I think it was mentioned in one of the TNG Writer's Tech Manuals (5th Season maybe?)that came out right around the time the episode aired on TV.
Later! Art
Posted by Siwiak (Member # 842) on :
quote:I presume to think the symbols in an actual Klingon fleet would form the word (s) for the governing body of the fleet (ex. "Klingon Empire") or the name of the ship (ex. "I.K.S. Ya'Vang").
Well, the most recent Federation ships don't have anything that say Starfleet or UFP on them, and the fact that the letters do seem to be different on other ships suggested that it doesn't merely say "Klingon Defense Force" or something of the like. Only time we ever saw UFP on a Fed ship was in the TOS Movie era, on the hulls of ships like the Constitution, Miranda, and Excelsior. If anything, it'd probably be the name of the ship, or at an extreme, the name of the house it supported... but given that everyone's man Okuda said it's jibberish, well...
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: That quote is from an episode in the Dominion War, IIRC. Near as I can recall, "Vor'cha" was first mentioned in WotW, but accepted by fandom for years beforehand.
There were models, Playmate toy, and Micromachines of Vor'Cha around years before the DW. The name might not have been canon onscreen until "WotW", but it was canon in every other way.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
I've found a site with Klingon letters and tried to translate it: u?ghwl
quote: most of the characters are rotated or reversed randomly.
Then it could be an alphanumerical registration code, comparable with Starfleet's NCC-....
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: I've found a site with Klingon letters and tried to translate it: u?ghwl
Sounds good. No, really. Klingons are supposed to have such a radically different language, but still all those funny ship names with all the capital letters and 's in it sound somehow normal if you speak it out loud. Vor'cha, K't'inga, Ty'gokor, Y'tem, Ya'vang... why isn't there a single ship that would sound absolutely stupid in our language? IKS H'Gwryxkls? Tjl'ghcozti-class? Think of it. Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
IKS P'e'too'nia maybe?
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
"Ty'gokor" had the misfortune of making me think "tiger core".
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I was under the impression that that was intentional.
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
I suppose. Meaning that Klingon warriors are akin to tigers?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well, I don't know about that. I meant on the part of the writers. Tiger Core sounds vaguely cool and menacing.
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
I can't decide whether Tiger Core sounds cool or silly, but I see your point, Sol.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
There is another station near the Betrekka nebula: Ty'ga'beat
I'm sure that Vor'cha class was mentioned in "Dramatis Personae" [DS9]
Andrew
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Tiger core" sounds like a bloody mess, assuming it's been separated from the rest of the tiger.
Posted by O Captain Mike Captain (Member # 709) on :
quote:Originally posted by NeghVar: Was this ship not called the "Bortas" in the episode the Mind's Eye...?
Almost sounds like a bastardization of Vor'Cha?
Later! Art
bortaS is Klingon for 'Revenge' or 'Vengeance'.. one of the last time a writer actually used the Klingon dictionary rather than making something up like most of the DS9 stuff.
Posted by iam2xtreme (Member # 836) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dax: I suppose. Meaning that Klingon warriors are akin to tigers?
Yes and the fact that Ty'gokor was supposed to be an extremely important Klingon installation, possible been suggested as the core of military operations.
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