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Posted by Gerard Gillan (Member # 684) on :
 
Evening all, i thought I would just post this little bit of information about the Norway Class blueprint (C.G.I.) or what ever people like to call it. I have been able to get a 5 view blueprint of the USS Budapest from First Contact. As far as I know but I may be wrong until now, no real 5 exterior views have been available until now.


I hope it helps people who have been looking for some views on this ship. Enjoy

Gerard - Gilso Norway blueprint/Schematic
 

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Posted by The Captain Who Will Not Be Named (Member # 709) on :
 
No way!
 

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Wow... there's nothing very much different from the basic structures that a few smaller-res fan models have done, but it's still nice to have a set of quasi-official five-view schematics.
 

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
Thanks, Gerard.

This ship has both my votes for "The starship which the least amount of thought went into," and "worst design ever," with the runner-up being the NX-01. BTW, doesn't the underside resemble the Defiant in the front?...

So it's true? No more Fact Files? Why?
 

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Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
 
After 304 issues, it was the end. We never got to see diagrams of the other Wolf 359 ships. Or the alien of the week Enterprise ships. *sigh*
 

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Posted by The Captain Who Will Not Be Named (Member # 709) on :
 
hmph.. im sure that ST: The Mag will still subject us to that stuff.

looks like they cut and pasted their drawing file from the Defiant for the detail.. since the CGI was assumed to be irreparably lost, should we assume that this is an interpolation? or is it possible they drew this from the actual pre-damage CGI?

BTW, the bottom looks a lot like the 'unidentified wreckage' from First Contact. Any1 got a pic of that to compare?

[edit] oh maybe not, i just looked at it an that one seems to have escape pods. oh well
 

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Actually, the bottom looks more like it's missing a secondary hull - or auxilliary pod.

Mark
 

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Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
 
There you go.


 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Amazing. How well I remember, way back in early '97 or thereabouts, refusing to have anything to do with the Fact Files because a) they were way to fanboyish (not that I knew the term then, this was even pre-Utopia Planita v1), and b) the mag would only last a few issues before vanishing forever. So I was half-right at least. 8)
 

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Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Actually, the bottom looks more like it's missing a secondary hull - or auxilliary pod.

Mark

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Originally posted by AndrewR:
What is this page!?! I tried the link but the page didn't exist! Sorry, is this an official Norway thing?

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It's a scan(good job on making it bigger, Gerard ) of 5-view blueprints of the Norway class from this week's Star Trek Fact Files. So, I suppose that makes it official.
 

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
There's a heck of a lot of Defiant panelling and features on the Norway. I wonder if it'd be possible/practical to extrapolate a size for the Norway by scaling the Defiant-alike features.

And thanks for the schematics, Gerard.
 

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
PLEASE can someone put it up here (using Flare upload) I soooooo wanna see!!)

OK, It's finally connected and I'm currently downloading it.

TWO words of warning as to the 'authenticity' of this thing.

1. The Fact Files track record of schematics for obscure classes, Niagra etc.

2. The fact that NO ONE has seen this model since it was made for First Contact in 1996. Mojo said that ILM didn't have it anymore. The ONLY person I suspect that MAY have a copy of it is Doug Drexler as he needed it to create the schematic featured in the 2nd Edition encyclopaedia. And you would assume that Alex Jager still has his own work on file.

So how did the Fact Files people get this information?

Oh, it's sorta sad that that is the last fact files... but well - I'm glad I only bought like 5 of them... 300+ at like 7 bucks each... over 2000 bucks for a lot of 'obvious stuff' 100 schematics most with labelling saying "nacelle".

Andrew
 

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Posted by Gerard Gillan (Member # 684) on :
 
AndrewR check your email account I have sent you the Norway blueprint.

Gerard - Gilso

You should stop cracking up now..... :-)
 

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Heh, what timing!

Check my last post - for an update and some comments.

THANKS though!!

Just one thing, what is with the grid lines? Where they in the fact files? Can we use this as some sort of sizing?

Andrew
 

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Posted by Herr Kapitan Mike (Member # 709) on :
 
gilso adds the gridlines to all his schematics as part of his site design (and to make it harder to clip the images

you can use them for sizing if you want.. but it wont mean anything
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Looks like this diagram came from the same place all the other FC ship diags did - either re-done from the ones in the Encyclopaedia (like I myself did for UP3), or from at least a common source with it.
 

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Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
 
Back to the image... it's not a blueprint and for that it gets a low grade, it's a color schematic.

Beyond that it looks good, I do have a gripe with the deflector dish, it just doesn't look right too me.
 

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Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
 
The whole ventral view bothers me. It makes it look like sections are hanging down, but the side, back and front views all show that the bottom is totally flat. That makes the bottom view seem less official and more made up on the spot.
 

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Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
If you'll recall the Steamrunner's underside was much the same, only that had Galaxy-class features instead of Defiant-class.
Remember that these were only meant to be used as background ships and were never meant to hold up to close scrutiny.
 

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
The Freedom and the Niagra classes were also only background ships - but they didn't do too badly in the scrutiny stakes.

Is there a Steamrunner and Sabre Class colour schematic like the Norway available!?!

Does anyone reckon that this might have been a ship that was a prototype for surfacee landing by starfleet?
 

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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :
 
I always thought it had a deflector there in the front like the Intrepid. Oh well.

The bottom doesn't seem to be flat, and the blue panels makes you envision a very diff. top paneling scheme altogether.
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
I hapen to like the Norway (it's a hell of alot better than some of the Wolf 359 ships!).
When making my 2500th scale model of the Norway, I added two phaser strips and a partially recessed Quantum Torpedo launcher to the ventral side...as well as some lifeboats!
I also made the Impulse Engine between the outrigger pylons instead of two seperate engines at the aft sides (like my friend from Nova Hobbies did).
From the schematic, I really can't tell where the Impulse engine(s) are! Ideas?

....oh, and I think that screenshot of debris is supposed to be the remains of the Zandura design.
 

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 

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it's a hell of alot better than some of the Wolf 359 ships!

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....oh, and I think that screenshot of debris is supposed to be the remains of the Zandura design.

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