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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Placeholder until I can do my thang. I went out to see "Die Another Day" tonight, and will be working on my thesis until the wee hours. Until then:

-Flash!
-"You're upside-down, ensign."
-Linda is HOT.

Mark
 
Posted by Akira (Member # 850) on :
 
i want to hear more about linda is hot (i agree:))
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Hoshi spends most of the episode in a tank top and sweats. Very nice, especially given she doesn't have the model physique of people like Blalock. Yum.

Mark <---Single, healthy, and available for drinks after the show!
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I like the sounds of the episode already. I'm actually more interested in the upside down part, since I already knew Linda was hot...
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Linda Park is SOOOO Freakin' hot! YUM!
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Agreed. I adore her. And she reminds me of my girlfriend, who also adores her. Yes.
 
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
Hormones: everywhere I go, there they are. [Big Grin]

Let me be the first one to say that I don't find Hoshi that cute at all. [Razz]
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
BLASPHEMER!!

 -

Look how cute...
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
Shall I remind everyone that David Templar is not what they may seem...? [Wink]

Also, I do not find Hoshi that attractive. T'Pol, on the other hand... [Big Grin] [Cool]
 
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by David Templar:
Hormones: everywhere I go, there they are. [Big Grin]

Let me be the first one to say that I don't find Hoshi that cute at all. [Razz]

Faggelers?
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Ohh, I love that LP picture Aban! Thanks! *drool*. Maybe you could depict Hoshi in your next piece of Trek-associated art-work?

Andrew
 
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Proteus:
Faggelers?

Is that even an actual word? O_o'''

I've seen better looking Korean girls, honestly. [Wink]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
What is David Templar's secret?
Is he a she?
Does he prefer men?
Is he a robot?
Priest?
Nun?
A female robot priest/nun that prefers men?

Hoshi is very hot. Warp Plasma hot.
T'Pol just has spray-on outfits. (not that that's a bad thing)
 
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Hell, I'm gay and I think Linda Park looks hot. So does Joalene Blalock and Jeri Ryan. Not that I'd have sex with them, but I'd love to take all three to a Victoria's Secret store and see what looks good on them.
 
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge:
Hell, I'm gay and I think Linda Park looks hot. So does Joalene Blalock and Jeri Ryan. Not that I'd have sex with them, but I'd love to take all three to a Victoria's Secret store and see what looks good on them.

Then I would fuck em.
 
Posted by Akira (Member # 850) on :
 
Sounds like he is making a switch to Bi or Stright lol
 
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Oh no, not stright! [Eek!]
 
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
 
Rather queer ey!? [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
I find it odd that the episode has aired in the US now and still no one has made any comments on the tech in this episode. I feel that, as an admin, I should steer this back on topic. *shrug* Dems da rulez and all that jazz.

Anyways, there wasn't too much new stuff. Just that, to Hoshi, the transporter acted all screwy and she went out of phase. The whole episode happened while she was in the pattern buffer for 8.3 seconds, like in "Eye of the Beholder" (episode happening in a second or two in realtime). If this happened to Hoshi in 8.3 seconds stuck in a pattern buffer, what did Scotty experience in the Jenol*n's pattern buffer for all those decades?
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Given that he rigged a diagnostic loop...

Reruns? [Smile]

Of the tuning image? [Wink]

Gives you a new definition of hell, I guess.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Uhura on Cestus III in TFF. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Proteus:
quote:
Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge:
Hell, I'm gay and I think Linda Park looks hot. So does Joalene Blalock and Jeri Ryan. Not that I'd have sex with them, but I'd love to take all three to a Victoria's Secret store and see what looks good on them.

Then I would fuck em.
Twice.
At.
Least.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
Uhura on Cestus III in TFF. [Smile]

Almost enough to turn a man gay.
Right there.
In that one scene.
(retch!)
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
Oh, Uhura was playing with the Gorn, now was she?

Unless, of course, you mean Nimbus III...
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I would agree that Linda Park is attractive, though far less so than usual in that picture that was posted.
 
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
The technical aspect of this thread is overwhelming.
 
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
 
Um, we find out that the gymnasium is on C Deck...not really technical, I suppose, but something from the episode I wanted to know!
 
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:
Originally posted by Proteus:
quote:
Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge:
Hell, I'm gay and I think Linda Park looks hot. So does Joalene Blalock and Jeri Ryan. Not that I'd have sex with them, but I'd love to take all three to a Victoria's Secret store and see what looks good on them.

Then I would fuck em.
Twice.
At.
Least.

You can have sloppy seconds.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Nimbus III, heh, thanks - still - Uhura's scene... WRONG! [Smile] They should have had that as part of Riker's "Nightmares" in Shades of Grey... seeing as he was also witness to events in tWoK!! [Smile]
 
Posted by Cadet Sorak (Member # 874) on :
 
Come on, people, what is wrong with you???

You're only encouraging the "Trekkie" stereotype of horny people with glasses jerking off to pictures of Jeri Ryan nude or something like that...this is the STARSHIPS AND TECHNOLOGY forum, not the "Horny Teen Trekkie" forum. Sheeshk, show a little intelligence for cryin' out loud.

I've been trying to decide whether I like the new transporter effect or not...on the one hand, you can actually SEE the subject being de-materialised, and that's always cool. But on the other hand, there's no visual effects for the annular confinement beam, or any of the other transporter processes.

What was said near the end of the episode about Commander Tucker (I believe) reccomending some new transporter protocal for Starfleet? ("Increasing something-or-other") I didn't quite catch that...and if anyone knows what that would do for the system...?

Why are they so afraid of it? Besides the fact that it's new, I mean. The system doesn't seem to be much different from the TOS or TNG transporters...and in this episode they only had a minor "hiccup" with the pattern buffer.

Also, does anyone know of a good website I can go to that talks in detail about how the transporter system "works"? I love theoretical physics and junk like that.

(Perhaps this post will steer the thread in the right direction...if not, nobody can say I didn't try.)
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Um let's see, Hoshi's imagination had Archer telling Tucker to have a new protocol that compresses the matter stream and signal so it doesn't degrade (or at least it doesn't as much or at a slower rate)

And what else? Oh, people are afraid because they know the transporter dematerializes matter and if anything is put back in the wrong place, it could mean trouble... especially for living things. And that most have never been through it and certainly don't want to for fear of the aforementioned possibility. And even in Hoshi's imagination, her father had never heard of such a device and so the general public would be afraid to go through it when they don't understand what goes on with the device. And remember, McCoy, Pulaski, and Barclay were afraid of it, so the fear still exists up the 24th century. Just like today some people are still afraid to fly.
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
I'm not gonna do the writeup for this episode. It's been three days since I saw it, and the ONLY thing that I can think of to really mention is the use of flash photography - and of taking pictures in general. We know that in TNG they rarely ever use cameras for some reason, Holodoc's shutterbug fetish aside.

Mark
 
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cadet Sorak:
Also, does anyone know of a good website I can go to that talks in detail about how the transporter system "works"? I love theoretical physics and junk like that.

The chapter on the transporter from the TNG Technical Manual is very detailed as to the internal workings and even has a complete 5 second typical transport broken down to hundredths of a second increments. Very good reading!
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"this is the STARSHIPS AND TECHNOLOGY forum, not the "Horny Teen Trekkie" forum."

I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're trying to draw here. You do realize that the very fact that we go to an Internet message board to discuss fictional technology (from Trek, no less) places us among the geekiest people in all of history, right?

Perpetual horniness just comes w/ the territory.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Actually, the really serious geeks I know, and by geek here I mean someone who has devoted so much energy to some specific enterprise that their entire selves have been absorbed by it, are often nearly asexual. Which is kind of where I had a hard time with Cryptonomicon, actually. If incredibly smart but strange people found it hard to concentrate without sex, we would never have gotten out of the stone age.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, the guy (why can't I remember his name?) in Cryptonomicon seemed to be generally flaky, anyway.

And I said we were among the "geekiest" people, not the "most obsessive".
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Lawrence Waterhouse, I believe.

And I think obsessiveness is a large component of geekdom.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I guess it depends upon how you define "obsessive".
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
On the topic of flash photography, it occurred to me almost immediately that we have QuickTime VR technology available even today -- they set up a camera in the middle of the room and take 360� pictures.

Heck, one of the first implementations of this idea was the computer version of the TNG Technical Manual back in 1993! And the same principle was used for the Captain's Chair CD several years later... not to mention the fact that "virtual tours" of the NX-01 Bridge are available on the official website.

I was also wondering just how thorough a scan of the planet these guys performed before sending an away team down. In the teaser Archer called with a "five-minute warning." At the rate that storm was approaching, they wouldn't have had a chance to make it off the planet even if they had left right away!
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
You do realize that the very fact that we go to an Internet message board to discuss fictional technology (from Trek, no less) places us among the geekiest people in all of history, right?

You know I wouldn't have listened to you if I hadn't gone to a convention yesterday and noticed from the corner of my eye a kid rolling his eyes at a guy - as I was talking to a person next to me about the actual class of the Federation fighter... I was explaining that it was the Peregrine class - but it hadn't been confirmed as such etc. LOL! I made a mental note (maybe spending too much time here!?! Yes?) [Smile]

Andrew
 
Posted by Cadet Sorak (Member # 874) on :
 
By the way, was I the only one who noticed severe plot similarities to TNG's "The Next Phase"??? I was thinking throughout the entire episode how much they drew on that plot. Hoshi, rendered invisible by a transporter accident, can go through walls, but not doors...objects but not floors...and is the only one who knows about a horrible plot against the Enterprise...it goes on and on.

But then they threw you for a loop! Instead of her alerting Commander Data...erm, Tucker of her presence and making him flood Ten Forward with baryon particles to make her visible, they used the "No Place Like Home" ending. Specifically, It Was All a Dream. How extremely depressing. I had hoped for a little more plot originality than all that.

Someone mentioned a while back that there could only be so many plots left after 5 series and hundreds of episodes...could they be right? [Frown]
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Everyone (except you) knew of the plot similarities to "The Next Phase". We were already commenting on that when we first got the spoilers some weeks ahead of the airing.
 


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