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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Someone I think requested this stuff in the original concept art thread, and I figured I'd start a new one because that thread has now gone off in a different direction. (Discussion of modifications to the Enterprise for the film.)

These are also from the latest (February) edition of Star Trek: The Magazine.

This one shows some of Eaves' design sketches for the Argo, and this one shows concepts for the spacedock (with cool "gooseneck" attachment designed to dock with the Sovereign's saucer shuttlebay) and some nice new workbees (also cool ) that unfortunately didn't make it to the film, instead being redesigned and replaced with the dock shuttles we saw in the finished movie. (Uncool. I like Eaves' designs better... )

Anyhow, enjoy!

-MMoM

P.S.

As a nice (and rather coincidental, since I didn't realize it when I was making the scans) bonus, the first pic also contains part of the interview with Eaves---specifically, the passage in which he confirms that he was intentionally trying to emulate the Klingon BoP when designing the Valdore. (Take that, all you "he's just a lazy-ass" bashers... )
 

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
That's an odd silhouette of the ship that he's drawn for that gooseneck thing...
 

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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :
 
Alright, I can finally take this article and shove it in the faces of those [not anyone from this board] that can state that the Valadore has "nothing in common" with any old designs, namely klingon ships and bops.
*packs shotgun*
"Ima comin for you dem bitches"
 

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Yeah, the silhouette is a little wonky.

Leaving what anyone may think about his designs totally aside, I think art-wise Eaves does the coolest-looking sketches. Sternbach's are sorta staid, Delgado's really, er, pennish, and Probert leans almost comic-book-wards, which is cool, but not really my scene. Eaves's, stylistically-speaking, look like they could show up in a design studio at Porsche or something. Anyone care to clarify what medium he's using? Ink? Watercolour? (Or, uh, both?) The B+W Scimitar perspective drawings were especially purty.
 

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Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
Ish.
 

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Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
So does this mean that the Valdore is actually a Romulan Bird of Prey or is it still a Warbird?
 

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
You can call it a battlecruiser or a starironclad or spaceship if you really want to. Onscreen it and its classmates were called Warbirds, but SWAT teams will not burst in the nearest window if you call it something else.
 

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Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
 
A pity they didn't go with one of the workbees as the 1st is cool, however the 4th one looks like a demented squid.

Is there any indication that they will show the other Eaves designs for the buggy?
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Yes, As UM's link suggests, those concept sketchs are most likely done in Marker and using ink for the blacks.

Professional grade markers are sweet, though I could never get down with them. In alot of cases they act almost just like watercolor.

As far as I know, the markers provide a way to quickly block out color and shape. If I had to guess, I'd say the drawings are laid down in pencil, then traced over with marker and ink.

However, these guys are pretty good, so they may not even do the pencil thing. They may go straight to the inks to block their stuff out.

EDIT: Now that I look at that link again, I see there are more pages to his Prep section. Doug doesn't mention the use of colored markers, but the same basic technique would likely apply. Instead of using greys to define the form, a color artist would put down various midtones and darks, then go over them with local color. At least... that's how I'd do it.
 

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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 

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Originally posted by Reverend:
So does this mean that the Valdore is actually a Romulan Bird of Prey or is it still a Warbird?

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Originally posted by The_Tom:
Anyone care to clarify what medium he's using? Ink? Watercolour? (Or, uh, both?) The B+W Scimitar perspective drawings were especially purty.

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