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Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
I liked this episode, however, it could have been a lot better, if they actually had Archer 'captured' for more than one episode and had this play out for more than what you could fit in a 25 minute 'A-plot'.

As for the tech:



[ May 15, 2003, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: Futurama Guy ]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
I liked the whole episode: particularly the crew of Enterprise being professional enough not to be snickering about T'Pol's little fever induced episode.
I laughed hard that T'Pol had noticed Malcom leering at her! [Big Grin] That was great!

I loved the update for the Telerites. They look much better than in TOS to be sure, although this particular Telerite was pretty darn cooperative.
T'Pol mentions taht Telerites consider arguing a kind of sport: This is really a smart thing to introduce into continuity as it establishes that the TOS Telerite ambassador was not just a bickering asshole.
He was culturally predisposed to be a bickering asshole. [Wink]

The telerite and bounty hunter ships were pretty sucky.
The new Klingon ship was really a great departure from the tired old shapes we've always seen them use.
Good to know the Klingons still hate archer and are'nt the forgive and forget type.
mabye we'll see some more bounty hunters go after archer in the future....a good excuse to show some TOS updates.

Phlox is the master of self control!
Holy Fuck! He must have seriously needed a sedative for himself after this episode!

The only thing I HATED in this episode was the blatant re-use of the Dominion shipyards as the telerite station. [Roll Eyes]
They didint even change it's color!
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Are there any pics of Skalaar yet?
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Ok.. downloaded the episode now.. and made some shots.

- Notice the phase beams from the NX-01. In both fighting scenes they're fired from impossible places.

- The Klingon weapons indeed look very similar to the original TOS prop. They fire green bolts.

- It's a shame they re-used the Cardassian Monac shipyards. I even think I spotted the Cardassian/Klingon freighter. But there also seems to be some kind of Vulcan ship. Probably of the D'Kyr type.

- Archer ejects in an escape pod. But in the scene with the Klingon tractor beam, the escape pod is HUGE.. and when it's on the Enterprise's grappler, it's back to normal. Or am I missing something?

- Kago's species is known to Skalaar and the Klingons, and Trip isn't too surprised either. A nice extra is that this alien-of-the-week is not just a guy with makeup, but has his own accent 'n' stuff.

- Which is something you can't say of the Tellarites. Westmore's done a GREAT job on updating the makeup. But they didn't seem particularly alien in their behavior.

- Guns, Klingons, spacefights, TOS aliens and sweaty horny half-naked Vulcan chicks. What more could you possibly want? But it did seem a bit like a desperate attempt to win the lonely Trekkie geek back [Smile]

- Did I mention sweaty horny half-naked Vulcan chicks? Phlox wanted her [Smile] I mean, he was always very open about his relationships... [Smile]
Even more interesting.. he doesn't answer T'pol's question of "Did we?". Yet she is suddenly normal again. I should write sleazy Trek fan fiction.
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
As far as wet dreams go, I think the new Klingon design could account for that pressing-iron shape from "Friday's Child"...

The bounty hunter ships look cute enough, in a very generic way - there's nothing species-specific there, but nothing very Trek-like, either (save for the immortal "type 6" cockpit). I'd have liked to see identifiable paint schemes if nothing else.

Good Tellarite makeup, but the hairstyle doesn't really evoke TOS feelings. Or were the Tellarites into the 1960s in the 2260s, too?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Phoenix (Member # 966) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Timo:
Or were the Tellarites into the 1960s in the 2260s, too?

Everyone was. It was Q's idea of a "joke". [Smile]
 
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Timo:
Good Tellarite makeup, but the hairstyle doesn't really evoke TOS feelings.

On the contrary, every time they'd show a side or back view, it reminded me of the Tellarite hair from "Whom Gods Destroy."
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
Here are a few minute additions:


 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Futurama Guy:
Here are a few minute additions:

[*]Additional time references: Skalaar had been hunting Archer for a little over 2 months.

Makes sense to me: Nobody "out there" knows shit about Earth or it's location so where to start?
Kago was smart enough to just folow the better bounty hunter. [Wink]
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Following the better bounty hunter... yeah, that's a smart trick!

Did anyone else get the impression that Robert O'Reilly was deliberately channeling his old Gowron inflections since the makeup was different?

Hmm, now that I think of it... I don't have any screenshots for comparison, but is it possible that Kago was one of those Albinos from DS9's "Playing God"?
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Good Idea! I have the DVD in now and I can see a resembelence, but I kinda thought the Albino was a Klingon Albino (explaining why he used a Bat'Leth).
Now that I think about it, the Albino and the vorta Keevan were the two biggest scumbags in all of Trek history.
The only TOS villian that much of a bastard was (oddly enough) the version of KahLess that the Excaliban whipped up.
That was probably just what Kirk thought he'd be like though. [Wink]
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Personally, I felt particularly proud of my review as it turned out quite properly Nguyen-esque, and what's more I spent like an hour typing it as I watched the ep. But, of course, YOU had to swoop in like a vulture in the interim and snatch the spot!

CURSE YOU, FUTURAMA GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!

*scowls bitterly and shakes fist*

[Razz]

Anyway, here it is, reposted:
quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:

Okay, I apologize in advance if this isn't as thorough or insightful a report as Mark would have given, but I hope it will suffice...

This (along with "First Flight") was one fairly-frelling-cool ep. Some neat tech, too.

Timestamp: March 21st, 2153

After spending three days exploring (and taking shore leave on) an uninhabited planet, the NX-01 encounters a surprise visitor. Captain Skalaar, who claims to be a member of the Tellarite Mining Consortium. Skalaar puts on the appearance of being just another enjoyer of the planet's climate and terrain, and offers to point out some spots of interest to Archer and Trip. His ship, which Malcolm identified from the Vulcan database, is an appropriate-looking rust bucket that I don't recognize, so I think it's a new CG model. (If I'm wrong about this, please let me know. Having not kept up with VGR, there's probably a fair heap of designs I wouldn't recognize.)

The Tellarite makeup has been fairly-tastefully updated (although IMO they went slightly overboard with the facial wrinkles) in a similar manner to that of the Andorians. The clothes have that distinct pattern on them, too, but more subtle than seen on the TOS costumes.

Skalaar docks with the NX-01 and when Trip and Archer come down to greet him, he pulls a phaser on them, zaps Tucker immediately, struggles with Archer a bit before overcoming him, and then blasts off with the Captain on board. As he flees, Skalaar disables the starboard nacelle so the ship can't follow until repairs are made. (How rude! [Razz] )

Shortly after, T'Pol and Phlox come back aboard from the planet surface and discover they have been infected with a microbe that Phlox believes they piced up from some native marsupials, and have to spend some time in decon so they don't spread it to the rest of the crew. A curtain has been installed in the decon chamber because apparently not everyone feels comfortable disrobing in front of their crewmates. (Go figure...according to Phlox, Denobulan males are more inhibited in these situations than females.) We literally get to see more of Phlox than ever before, as he undresses to apply a decon gel. He's got sort of bruise-like patterns of (dis)coloration on his chest, and an interesting spinal pattern on his back.

Archer awakes aboard the Tellarite ship to find himself trapped within a cool-yellow-glowy holding field. He discovers that Skalaar is actually a bounty hunter seeking the reward that the Klingons have placed on Archer since the incident in "Judgment." He is taking Archer to one Captain Goroth in exchange for 9,000 darseks. Skalaar doesn't know what Archer is accused of, and he says he doesn't care to know. Neither is he affected by Archer's attempts to talk his way out of the situation.

NX-01 completes repairs on the nacelle and gets a fix on Skalaar's warp signature, but when they track it down it turns out to be a subspace decoy beacon designed to throw them off the track. This fairly irritates Trip and Reed, and the latter rather enthusiastically blows the beacon up with the phase cannon.

Meanwhile, it turns out that the microbe has prematurely triggered T'Pol's pon farr cycle, and she starts trying to rub Phlox in a way that I wouldn't exaclty call "wrong," ( [Smile] ) but one that Phlox isn't comfortable with, at any rate. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it's always been tacitly understood that only Vulcan males go through this. What gives? Oh well...I suppose them's the brakes. Can't have everything, can we....

Skalaar and Archer are intercepted by a rival bounty hunter named Kago, of another alien race with another (I think) new ship design that's bigger and more heavily gunned. He, of course, wants the reward for himself. A firefight ensues, and Skalaar is forced to let Archer out to help pilot the ship while they fend off the attacker. Since they can't outrun Kago, they drop out of warp and descend into the atmosphere of a class-L planet (somebody was reading Star Charts, because the appearance of both the atmosphere and surface matches the description there) where a really cool air battle sequence takes place. They eventually confuse Kago with one of the decoy beacons and damage his ship, forcing him down. However, Skalaar's ship's main reactor is also damaged, and since it can only be accessed from outside the vessel, they too must land on the surface. (Fortunately, they take the precaution of setting down 1,000 km away from where Kago crashed.)

While making repairs on the surface, Archer and Skalaar speak some, and we find out that the Tellarite is a former freighter captain whose sole purpose in chasing fugitives is working to buy his beloved old ship, the Tezra, back from the Klingons. (This is in sharp contrast to Kago, who would waste the reward on something such as Orion slave girls. [Wink] ) The Tezra (which we never see, only hear about) was "the first of her class, the fastest ever built," and could haul 1 million metric tonnes at Warp 4.5. She was impounded when Skalaar and his brother (who we meet later) took an unwelcome shortcut across Klingon space while hauling a cargo of fire salt.

While Skalaar is relating all of this to Archer, the Captain is furtively sabotaging the engines of the ship. However, Skalaar discovers this before the job is complete, and they are soon on their way once more to the rendezvous with Goroth. (The class-L planet is approximately 6 light-years from the border.) However, they are badly in need of an antimatter injector, so en route Skalaar stops at a tired-looking space station of considerable size, busy with a great many ships, (among them are a Vulcan D'Kyr-type combat cruiser, as well as a Vahklas-type, what I think is a Y-class freighter, and a number of others that are too small to identify in the shot due to the distance) where his brother works. His brother has never forgiven him for the Klingon incident, and he somewhat crushes Skalaar's hopes when he informs him that the Tezra has been cannibalized by the Klingons and is of no use any more.

This blow to Skalaar gives Archer the opportunity he needs to win over the Tellarite. He plays on Skalaar's anger towards the Klingons and proposes a plan that will help them both....

Meantime, back on the NX-01, T'Pol has moved past the horny phase into the blood fever phase and is generally freaking out. Phlox tries to sedate her, but she escapes from the decon area and begins roaming the ship. Phlox has Reed seal off E-deck and send in a security team in EV suits (because she's still capable of transmitting the microbes) that eventually manages to subdue her, but not before she attempts (not *quite* successfully) to seduce Malcolm.

Archer and Skalaar meet Goroth's ship. It is another quite cool *NEW* design! However, IMO it looks more Romulan-ish than Klingon. However, it seems to be consistent with the idea that these two races have long used similar design ethics. (I am more and more convinced that there is a very long history of tech exchange between them, even earlier than this.) Skalaar "hands" Archer over to Goroth in handcuffs, and receives payment. (Which by now has been lowered to 6,000 darseks.) But when Archer is left alone in a holding cell, he produces a key and unlocks the handcuffs Amidala-style. Hidden in the cuffs is a small device which trips the cell door mechanism and allows Archer to escape. He wrestles with several Klingons who carry pistols that are (coolly so) reminiscent of the TOS sonic disruptors. He fights his way to an escape pod (I thought Klingon ships didn't have them [Frown] ) and jettisons. The Klingons come about to recapture him, but in the meantime Skalaar has contacted the NX-01 and it arrives to snatch the pod with the grappler and disable Goroth's vessel. (Which is, while dwarfing the tiny Tellarite craft, much smaller than the Enterprise.)

The T'Pol odreal comes to an end when Phlox is able to purge the microbe infection that was causing the unnatural mating drive.

Skalaar is left free to go about his business, confident that the Klingons won't catch on to his deceit. He intends to look for another old freighter for sale, and in parting he warns Archer that the Klingons will probably double the price on Archer's head.

And that, as they say, is that.

-MMoM [Big Grin]

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
I wasnt really trying to review the episode, just trying to throw the facts out technophyle-style and some of the story if it was involved in the tech. [Roll Eyes]

Trying to be myself, not Mark. [Wink]

To make matters worse for ya, MMoM...I actually watched it the first time on tape about 2 hours after it originally aired. [Razz]

Advantage: Futurama Guy (EST) [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
I thought it's always been tacitly understood that only Vulcan males go through this.

Nah, nobody ever said that only the males go through pon farr, at least not that I've seen. Saavik et al. may have stated specifically that vulcan males go through pon farr every seven years, but that may just have been because the females have a different cycle, or that they simply call it punn fir or something when it applies to females. I mean, really, how much sense would it make for just the males to have to endure that when the females are also repressing their emotions? "New Frontier" seems to take that tack towards the issue.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Worf's BoP in the end-run of DS9 episodes had at least one escape pod. Perhaps the reasoning is, "While we don't mind dying in battle, dying because the warp core won't eject sucks."
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
"Today is a bad day to fry."
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Not at all a bad episode, but the sloppy phase cannon beams annoyed me. In at least one shot there wasn't any reason why the beam couldn't have come from the proper location, but it didn't anyway. Boo. A thoroughly minor point, I suppose.

I really liked the other bounty hunter's ship.
 


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