What are the known Star Fleet shipyards that are canon?
From TOS we have: "San Francisco, California" for the Enterprise "Tranquility Base" (I assume on the Earth's Moon)for the Defiant
Being mostly interested in TOS, those are the only ones I know.
Was the Enterprise in TNG built at Utopia Planetia? Or am I just making that up?
Can anyone else remember any shipyards that are known from the canon?
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Utopia Planetia, Mars is canon. It's on the D's plaque and has been mentioned in a number of episodes.
I believe the Defiant was built at Antares Ship Yards. There's an Eridani-A something or other shipyards as well.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Not only was Utopia Planetia on the plaque and mentioned several times, but also seen as well on Voyager.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
(I am sort of amused that after all this time "Star Fleet" still shows up, even in official places.)
The first time part of the Utopia Planetia shipyard was seen was that one TNG episode with the space baby, surely, albeit limited to that one room of an apparently orbital facility.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
When locations like "Utopia Planitia Yards" or "San Francisco Yards" are shown to be orbital facilities, one begins to wonder whether they have a surface component in their respective "locations" at all.
I mean, surely they have a surface component. But there's no particular reason to think that the San Francisco Yards would have a surface component at San Francisco (which isn't even conveniently situated on the equator for regular vertical access to its namesake docks, nor on the east coast for easy ballistic access). Rather, "San Francisco Yards" could be a name only, a trademark having nothing to do with the city.
Okay, granted, the Enterprise dedication plaque does explicitly say "San Francisco, Calif."... But that is a rather unique case. The Antares shipyards seem to be anywhere BUT Antares, since it would be extremely awkward to have "Bajor Sector" anywhere near the star of that name. "Utopia Planitia Yards" don't necessarily have anything to do with the Utopia plains, either, and may simply have been named after the scenic site or the historic colony. And extreme planetary congestion would be needed to turn Mount McKinley into an industrial site...
Also, the wording "Antares Shipyards, Bajor Sector" suggests that such contractors have yards at multiple physical locations. It wouldn't be impossible for Utopia Planitia Yards to have built the E-D entirely on Earth orbit, for example.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
I assume each ship yards have planet-based facilities, only that they are less prominent because raw materials are processed there or electronic components are built which is little spectacular. On the other hand, the preparation of raw materials or of small components would rather not be done by the ship yards. There should be suppliers for that.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Was McKinley Station named specifically after the mountain? I don't remember it as such. If it's not, the station doesn't necessarily have to have a ground based portion at the mountain. It could be just a space facility named after the explorer or someone else with the name McKinley.
B.J.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Indeed, the McKinley Station is almost certain that the station has nothing to do with the mountain, which cannot be assumed to be an industrial area supporting an orbital dockyard. Perhaps it, like the mountain, is named after US President McKinley?
Antares Yards in turn could be named in sarcastic defiance of the near-monopoly of the supposedly mainly Martian Utopia Planitia Yards on starship orders: the name of the star Antares apparently derives from "anti" ("against", "apart from") and "Ares" (the Greek god of war that the Romans called Mars), since it is a sort of "second Mars" on the sky.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Regarding Star Fleet vs. Starfleet, I was sort of under the (apparently mistaken) impression that Earth had a Star Fleet, while the Federation has Starfleet. No? Was it all one word on Enterprise?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
It was always one word on ENT. AFAIK, the only places "STAR FLEET" has appeared onscreen were on the monument in front of the Starfleet Medical Center (but not on the building itself) in "Endgame" (VGR) and on the Star Fleet Battle Group Omega display from Star Trek: Nemesis.
Ironically, IIRC the single-word phrasing was seen in "Court Martial" (TOS). I'm not even sure where people got "Star Fleet" from in the first place. But now it's become one of those "us versus them" things in Fandom.
-MMoM Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
There is also the Yoyodine shipyards which built the Constellation class ships, Earth Station McKinley which the Enterprise-C was built at. San Fransico Fleetyards and there is also one in Japan too but I cant remember the name of it.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
And the Baikonur Cosmodrome (Tsiolkovsky). And the Skywalker Shipyards or whatever (Pasteur).
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
The Pasteur was built by the Skywalker Division of the Marin County Starfleet Yards.
And as far as Utopia Planitia is concerned, we did see the surface facilities on several occasions. They were obviously on Mars, and therefore most likely on the Utopian plains.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
When did we see the surface facilities? The holographic recreation was the orbital facility. And I think the shot in Voyager was just the orbital drydocks. I don't remember ever seeing the planetside part...
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Do you mean we saw the surface facilities from a spatial view?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
According to the Encyclopedia, the surface facilities were seen from space briefly in "Parallels" (TNG). In addition, the Martian city that the Doctor and Danara visited in "Lifesigns" (VGR) was supposed to be Utopia Planitia. One of the models even has a Starship Development logo on the side.
-MMoM Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Wow. Well.. it says "Intrepid Class Development Project", so maybe it's only one of the surface facilities. Hard to believe an entire colony would be devoted to one vessel design, though. And why in the world would Tom Paris create a romantic program with a Starship Development facility in it?
"Hey baby... the only place I've seen navigational deflectors *that* big are on the ship they're designing on the other side of that hill... May I modulate your positron flow?"
When did we see them in "Parallels"? The Ent never went to the Sol system in that ep, did they? Ohhhh... it's one of the facilities being monitored by the co-opted Argus Array. I wonder if they used the same model... now that would be some righteous detail rememberance.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
This is how (part of) the facility looked from the view of the Argus Array in "Parallels." (It's the one in the lower right-hand corner.)
And, presumably, the development facilities are only part of a larger civilian colony.
-MMoM Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
quote:Originally posted by Timo: McKinley Station ... named after US President McKinley?
Leave this to the Canadian to figure out...I think that McKinley was indeed named for the US President. Through my research he was the 25th President and the repair facility made its premiere during the 25th Anniversary of Trek.
That may be a BTS explanation for the choice of the name, but...
Has the 40 Eridani Ship Yards been mentioned yet...Vulcan produced Miranda Classes there such as the USS Brattain.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Through a link somewhere on the first page.
Posted by Home Decor and Gardening (Member # 239) on :
"Through my research he was the 25th President and the repair facility made its premiere during the 25th Anniversary of Trek."
I guarantee you, with all of my heart and soul, that there is no correlation.
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
I'm only saying that it may be a Behind-the-Scenes explanation as to why that name was chosen for the station. Not an in-universe one.
Posted by newark (Member # 888) on :
Or another possibility- In 'Assignment: Earth', the episode with Gary Seven, the rocket launch was held at McKinley Rocket Base. McKinley Station may be a homage to that facility.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"I'm only saying that it may be a Behind-the-Scenes explanation as to why that name was chosen for the station. Not an in-universe one."
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