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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
Just saw the preview for JTB on Startrek.com:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/26395.html

http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/341/Orion.jpg

Besides the awesome new shuttlecraft landing, it looks like we get a new design for the "pinwheel-class" Orion ship, based on the "spinning glob of light" from the original footage! There's definitely a structure to it this time around, with what looks like a wheel with lights spinning around. Unfortunately, as in the original it zooms by so fast that it's hard to get a good glimpse of it (although I'm sure Startrek.com will be posting the pics of it soon). Yay!
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
They've also got FTWIHAIHTTS and WNMHGB. It doesn't look like they had finished the effects for WNMHGB - the phaser blast at the end looked very... "un-enhanced"

Andrew
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
OK just checked trekmovie.com and they've already aired.
 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
That shuttle landing sequence is sweet!
http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/858/babelshuttle.jpg
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Nice! I wonder... are any of those shuttles erroneously labeled Galileo? [Wink]
 
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
 
Well we can see the Columbus on the right there. What's the other one supposed to be?

All the effects look gorgeous(I don't often use that word about effects!), especially the shot of the 1701 in front of Yonada. It's almost totally spot on, just needs a little colour.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
Yeah I was gonna start a thread on trek remastered but I got lazy. That orion ship is interesting but it kinda looks like the enemy ship from that show UFO.
 
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny:
Well we can see the Columbus on the right there. What's the other one supposed to be?

Copernicus was mentioned during TOS, IIRC...

--Jonah
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Only in TAS ("The Slaver Weapon").

We know from TOS-non-R that the crew kept painting the name Galileo to new craft after losing the predecessors. There's no real reason to be worried about Sarek's ride being the Galileo despite the fact that a craft of that name had already been lost at that point.

It would be a nice touch, though, if the VFX folks labeled this craft Galileo II in this episode already; in TOS-non-R, the II was only added as late as "Way to Eden".

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
I always thought the adding of II was kinda dumb..
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
They have the efx video for "for the world is hollow...".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr9lbTm3b_A

Impressive detail on the Yonada although the "missiles" still look crappy, I don't blame the remastered team though.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
The only reason the missiles look crappy is because they're emulating 60s-era effects. [Wink]
 
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
 
A clearer pic of the Orion ship and two of the shuttles are on Trekmovie.

http://trekmovie.com/2007/01/31/new-images-from-journey-to-babel-remastered/
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
The Orion ship is simply great.

The shuttlebay... Well, the detail is delightful. And I can dig they would want to make the observation areas match the set from "Conscience of the King", although they could just as well have left those windows unaltered and instead placed the group of four windows at the front end of the bay (where we know there is an observation area, too, at least in ST5).

The shuttles are slightly odd, though, as the result of the scale difference between the prop and the set. How come the crew is able to see out (and be seen) through the front windows, when in "The Menagerie" it was confirmed the pilots sit well below window level? Do the pilots perhaps sit on telescoping chairs that are elevated for approach?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
I love the fact that the Orion ship has a worn look, almost as though it's some sort of space jalopy.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Fuck yeah- I'm digging all the new designs thus far.
The Orion ship rocks because it's got two seperate geometries going and that quickly roating glowing is so distracting....
I envision a whole shipload of Kzinti helplessly batting at their viewscreen as the Orion ship zooms by.
 
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
That new image of the Orion ship rocks. And I'm sooooo glad that it's not green (although I already knew that from the preview).

I can't wait to see the Antares!
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
And remember that after Journey to Babel comes the Doomsday Machine. Also Daren Dotcherman will be releasing his own enhanced version of the episode!

http://trekmovie.com/2007/01/31/preview-of-dochtermans-enhanced-doomsday-machine/
 
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
Holy crap! I can't believe how good that looks.
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
What will be the slot in "Charlie X" where we might glimpse the Antares? Before the first shot of the original episode? There wasn't any establishing exterior VFX in the original episode, for obvious reasons, so they'd have to insert new stuff while simultaneously trimming down the episode to syndicated length...

I just hope the eventual DVD release will have all the live action AND the new Antares bits, with not a second missing.

Dochterman is God. (I wish Okuda and pals had the time and money to be Gods, too.)

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
 
I think they confirmed recently that the DVDs will be full length episodes, not the syndication edits. Unfortunately, the team are being forced to finish off all the first season eps so they can be released on DVD, while at the same time doing episodes from seasons two and three for tv broadcast. They're really being stretched.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
EFX video is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuVaBb-j2tU

The Enterprise really tears that Orion ship a new one. Also the shuttle landing sequence was really well done.
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
The rumor now goes that the long scene with the shuttle and the rows of honor guard on the background received a new backdrop as well, not shown on the YouTube VFX reel yet. Essentially, the shuttle was shown nose aft, with the side observation gallery on the background and the corridor thus on the starboard side of the bay... Not an ideal solution. [Frown]

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Huh. Interesting. The starboard phasers fire & end slightly before the port ones. Phaser Control officer hitting the switches oddly, or is our girl just right-handed?
 
Posted by RAMA4 (Member # 1229) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dukhat:
Just saw the preview for JTB on Startrek.com:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/26395.html

http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/341/Orion.jpg

Besides the awesome new shuttlecraft landing, it looks like we get a new design for the "pinwheel-class" Orion ship, based on the "spinning glob of light" from the original footage! There's definitely a structure to it this time around, with what looks like a wheel with lights spinning around. Unfortunately, as in the original it zooms by so fast that it's hard to get a good glimpse of it (although I'm sure Startrek.com will be posting the pics of it soon). Yay!

I love that ship!! It has an older look about it, but also looks somewhat like a swirl.


RAMA4
 


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