I was paying close attention to the close captioning of the film, and I noted that the shuttle commanded by Pike to the Narada is identified as Shuttle 89. So, could this mean the Enterprise has 89 shuttles? If so, how does this add to our understanding of the size of the starship.
(According to the Starship Spotter, a Galaxy-class Starship had a total of 16 shuttles, with 4 work bees and a captain's yacht.)
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I doubt it. I expect the numbering isn't necessarily in order. For whatever reason that might be.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
While on the subject of shuttles, I just noticed something about the Kelvin I didn't before - but I'm sure someone must have commented on it, in which case I missed it.
Captain Robau gets in a turbolift from the Bridge deck. Film then cuts to the shuttle deck and a turbolift coming DOWN the lift shaft which opens and Robau steps out. He walks up a set of stairs to the upper shuttle rank and flies one out. From the shuttle port at the rear of the secondary hull, at the top of the ship.
Er?
Where exactly did that lift shaft come from?! He was virtually at the highest point of the starship when he got out of the lift!
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I never noticed that! Very amusing.
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: I doubt it. I expect the numbering isn't necessarily in order. For whatever reason that might be.
The Kelvin is the Voyager's long-lost sister ship, and destruction of shuttlecraft is a family trait, perhaps?
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lee: While on the subject of shuttles, I just noticed something about the Kelvin I didn't before - but I'm sure someone must have commented on it, in which case I missed it.
Captain Robau gets in a turbolift from the Bridge deck. Film then cuts to the shuttle deck and a turbolift coming DOWN the lift shaft which opens and Robau steps out. He walks up a set of stairs to the upper shuttle rank and flies one out. From the shuttle port at the rear of the secondary hull, at the top of the ship.
Er?
Where exactly did that lift shaft come from?! He was virtually at the highest point of the starship when he got out of the lift!
Perhaps the main horizontal turboshaft runs along the top of the engineering hull?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
89 shuttles and a yacht ain't one...
Fandom material for the TOS-movie era has the ships with oodles of shuttles. If the Kelvin was a long-range vessel and was set out to start a colony or some such thing, it wouldn't be inconceivable for them to have a whack of auxiliary craft. It could be that the Kelvin didn't use transporters a whole lot and therefore had a bunch of shuttles. The high number of 89 could suggest lots and lots of workbees, travel pods, etc.
Posted by vwuser (Member # 2182) on :
Shuttle 89 is not on the Kelvin, nor associated with this starship. This shuttle belongs to the Enterprise.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Oh, oops. :S
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
The best in-universe idea that springs to mind is that the shuttle is not from the Enterprise, but from Starfleet HQ, or the space station and thus just a pool shuttle.
Do we ever see the markings clearly enough to say fure sure it is an Enterprise shuttle?
I expect the real world reason is either that Orci or Kurtzman just picked a number for the shuttle rather than a name, or that the ship was supposed to be the huge monster-prise XXL when they wrote it. Then 89 or ever 189 shuttles might not be unreasonable.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
I could give you a Navy reason...
You've all seen pics of jets with nose numbers like 114 or 603. Doesn't mean there's 603 jets on the ship or even the 603rd jet in the fleet. The first number refers to the type of the squadron. For example, 1 = fighter squadron. 6 = electronic support missions. The second set means the number in the squad. 114 = 14th jet in the fighter squadron. Which then goes by seniority. The CAG would be in something like 100. The lowest ranking pilot would in like 114.
I realize of course this isn't the case cause I doubt they even thought about it when doing shuttle numbers. I suppose you could say the first number refers to the type of the shuttle. Like 9th Type 8 shuttle on the Enterprise.
Posted by vwuser (Member # 2182) on :
I have tabulated a full list of known shuttles from the film, and what they were used for:
U.S.S. Kelvin NCC-0514 ** 2 , seen departing the starship after the medical shuttle with evacuees ** 3 , seen departing the starship before the medical shuttle with evacuees ** 37 , medical shuttle, site of James T. Kirk's birth ** 43, used by Robau when he flew to the Narada
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 ** 2 - Gilliam used for ferrying cadets to the starship ** 9 used for ferrying cadets to the starship ** 89 used for the a three-team space-jumping onto a drilling rig and for ferrying Pike to the Narada
Other ** 12091 stored in Hangar 1 ** 70172 used for ferrying recruits to the Academy. Name is Bardeen. ** 78072 used for trans-warping cadets to the Enterprise, shuttle is 'banjaxed' ** Dimassa 01, seen in the Blue-Ray special features, unknown use