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Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
Working on a TOS project now. Finished the Connie, next up was some Constitution variants. This is the Saladin.

saladin01.jpg
saladin03.jpg

Also planned is the Ptolemy, the Paladin (a Saladin variant of my own design, similar to the Loknar), the Federation Dreadnought, and a TOS Miranda-type.

[EDIT: Again, please link large images. Thank you.]

[ February 25, 2002, 13:57: Message edited by: Topher ]
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Woah. Nice Work. [Eek!]
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
permission to use!
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
Use? Sure, if you mean on a website somewhere. By all means, but attach the relevant links and credits...
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
I already have a link to your page on my frontpages, so that should be fine. I'm in the process of tracking down image credits for all the graphics ive stolen over the years, in preparation for going legit. Usually, for my starship index in the galactopedia, ill shrink the pic down to 300px, transparency the bg and then add a credit to the entry too, if its cool
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
An adherent to non-chronological registries, I see. But lovely.
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
CaptainMike, thanks, I'll put a link to your site on my links page too...

Shik, there is method to my madness. I actually support the chronological reg theory, to a point, although it's evident that they may have been somewhat 'looser' during the TOS period. The Saladin schematic pic from the TM carried a registry of NCC-500, so mine's not beyond the realms of implausibility.

The only real problem crops up when you compare the obvious similarities between this ship, the Ptolemy and the Constitution, and then take note of the registry conflicts, for in essence, these ships all hail from the same design family.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Admiral:
Shik, there is method to my madness. I actually support the chronological reg theory, to a point, although it's evident that they may have been somewhat 'looser' during the TOS period. The Saladin schematic pic from the TM carried a registry of NCC-500, so mine's not beyond the realms of implausibility.

Uhh...except that it's lower than NCC-500, the reg of the prototype??? Of course you know I don't care about such things... [Roll Eyes]

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
Without going into a reg debate, yes I sincerely observe this kind of thing stringently, you'll know this if you've visited my site.

The Saladin picture of the Manual does say NCC 500, but it doesn't say USS Saladin, so this picture doesn't necessarily portray the prototype.

Besides, TOS registries are pretty loose, and may not be strictly chronological. So NCC 479 was intended, not a mistake.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
Besides, if you've read Diane Carey's 'Dreadnought!' you know the Saladin-class USS Pompeii had a registry of NCC-424, which obviously shows Saladins suffer from the Constitution-registry disease.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
quote:
The Saladin picture of the Manual does say NCC 500, but it doesn't say USS Saladin, so this picture doesn't necessarily portray the prototype.


What? That's the number of the Saladin, if you'll just glance over to the opposite page... [Roll Eyes] Besides, what else would the drawing be of but the prototype? All the ships in the book are represented by their class prototypes...

But you're most correct that the TOS ships had some rather...odd...(and similar) peculiarties.

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
Ah, there's a simple explanation to this. I no longer have the actual tech manual, it disappeared some time ago, perhaps in an old apartment. I relied only on scanned pictures taken off the net to build these ships.

I won't therefore argue that the Saladin has a reg of NCC 500, but this ship model is the USS Vostok, NCC 479.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Ah, I'm sorry. I figured you had the whole book to look at, but if you don't than you couldn't have been expected to know that. Anyhow, your ship isn't any worse than the NCC-1017 Constellation or any of those other lower-than-1700 Connies.

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Hey Red, are you going to do a Hermes? A simple modification, just remover the phaser banks from the upper saucer surface and the photorp tubes...

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
Eventually yes. I have a huge list of ships to do, including all known canon, or semi canon ship types. I've got 30-some already. But the difference between the Hermes and the Saladin is really negligible, so I expect it will just be a Saladin modification that would take me five minutes.
 


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