A few ships that I've drawn up but never posted here on Flare.
This is a ship that's made from the Athabaska class, among others.
Here's a drawing of a ship that started out as a Micro Machine. I've modified it from it's original rendition.
And this is the Elora class. It's not terribly creative, I suppose. But it has the virtue of one of the few ships that I've drawn up completely from scratch.
[ July 08, 2002, 21:54: Message edited by: Topher ]
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
I like the second one very much. Very well proportioned.
Looks like some sort of immediate predecessor to the Excelsior class, don't you think?
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Door Number One for me...
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
*drools*
I really like the Athabaska Class. I might do something a little different with the neck... maybe angle it forward a bit more, or even try losing it altogether... but I can SO see that as a nice 3-D model....
EDIT: Sorry... I didn't mean the Athabaska Class... I'm talking about the second one... the Micro Machine one.
[ July 09, 2002, 06:29: Message edited by: Aban Rune ]
Posted by Ed / BWC (Member # 818) on :
Shoo-wee those are nice ships!
My only suggestions:
For the Athabaska Class, lose that phaser turret (?) above the nacelle.
And for the Elora, I would make it a little longer and less taller, but what the heck, all of them are dern fine ships.
(Goes and plots revenge )
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
quote:For the Athabaska Class, lose that phaser turret (?) above the nacelle.
1. It's not called the Athabaska class. He said it's based of its design. 2. If you're referring to the second design, it's also not the Athabaska class. He identifies it as being based off a Micro Machine kitbash 3. Those are not phaser turrets on the nacelles. They actually do belong on them. Look carefully at all instances of the "LN-64" nacelle and you'll see they are there as well, just not as pronounced as Topher made them out to be on his ships.
Edit: I just realized you might be talking about the phaser cannon (a la Miranda class). In that case, ignore what I said in number 3.
[ July 09, 2002, 09:35: Message edited by: Dat ]
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
D'oh! I never told you guys the other two's names
The first one is the Lusitaria and the second one is the Bombardier.
The Lusitaria has heavy phaser emplacements because it's similar to the Knox class, neither of which have torpedo capability, so they need some sort of heavy weaponry. The Lusitaria is meant to be a scout-ish kinda ship. Keen observers (or maybe everyone but no one said anything ) would notice the sensor equipment under the bridge module.
As for the Bombardier, well, I have the MM in front of me here. I suppose it is a step towards the Excelsior. The MM is actually the E-A saucer and nacelles with the Excelsior stardrive and pylons (I lopped off part of the end of the stardrive to use on another minature).
And the Elora is pretty much finished. I like it as it is. I might add windows to it sometime in the future, but that's unlikely. I can't really move the saucer down as that would block off the torpedo launchers and I'd have to relocate those. Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
[interesting notion]
I woner what would hapen if you turned the nacelles on the Bombardier upside down ala the Akyazi...
[/interesting notion]
Posted by Ed / BWC (Member # 818) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dat: 1. It's not called the Athabaska class. He said it's based of its design. 2. If you're referring to the second design, it's also not the Athabaska class. He identifies it as being based off a Micro Machine kitbash
1. I mean the first one, based off the Athabaska Class, sorry!
2. No, I'm not.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Topher: I took the liberty of quickly making a couple of the changes I was talking about.... just to see how it looked. I also did a couple of other variations. I really dig that overall design.
Me likey. Picture the nacelle pylons coming straight out of the little hump in the middle and angling slightly aft.
[ July 10, 2002, 08:28: Message edited by: Aban Rune ]
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
First you nix the neck, then the whole saucer? Hmm. Not sure I like those modifications...
I might see about putting LN-68 nacelles on there. That might look a bit better.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Here's the Bombardier with the "Ikeda" LN-68 nacelles.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I was just playin' round. Obviously, the third one doesn't bear much resmblance at all to the original. Just an idea I had that reminded me of a design I came up with using the Exclsior secondary hull a while back.
Posted by Ed / BWC (Member # 818) on :
Now that I look at it, the Elora class looks like a step from the Constitutuion to the Amassador. I forgot say say I like them all.
(What program do you use?)
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
I never liked the LN-68 nacelles. It looks like someone took the LN-64 nacelles and just starting chopping of the the top-front portion.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I use Paint Shop Pro 7.04.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
So do I ... at times.
Anyway, I still prefer the very first version of the Bombardier, sans the changes.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Yeah, the LN-68 Bombardier isn't all that great. Kinda like the refit Ingram with the Galaxy-family nacelles. Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
I think the saving grace of the LN-68 would be if the cut away part glowed red. Now that I would like...
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Like that?
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
No, that just doesn't look right. No ship at the time had red glowing ramscoops
That's also what pissed me off when I saw the DS9 space battles with all those Mirandas with red-and-blue nacelles. As if.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Well, those Mirandas also had the yellow arrowheads on the nacelle pylons. That to me suggests newbuilds or refits. So, it's safe to assume that the nacelles have been modified.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Sure, it just looks so damn weird, especially as the red glow comes from the "grill" on the side of the nacelle where a ramscoop shouldn't be able to function. Remember, all the "real" ramscoops faced forward as to be able to collect the hydrogen etc.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
The ramsoops function (IIRC) by magnetically drawing hydrogen into them. I suppose, theoretically, they could function just as well on the sides. As the ship passes close to a hydrogen atom, it would be magnetically drawn toward the nacelle, then around to the side where it gets slurped up.
I may be wrong.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I decided to tweak the Elora a bit. I never really liked the stardrive all that much. The first take, v6, was borrowed from Reverend's Entente.
This didn't turn out that well, and Kris said that he had designed the sensor assembly as a special adaptation for use at transwarp speeds, so I tweaked it some more and got this:
I think this is better.
And here we have the Whistler, another ship that I work on sometimes. Needs some work, like detailing.
I didn't like some things in this version, mainly the nacelles. So, I made a new nacelle and here you have the current incarnation:
Posted by CaptainMike: Director's Edition (Member # 709) on :
oooh.. looks pretty dauntless to me.. im itchin to see some windows on it.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I rarely do windows. Especially on ships like the Whistler. The only detailing I'll do on it will probably be a shield grid, phasers, and maybe some sensor pallets or something. Nothing fancy. Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
New nacelles for the Bombardier. I think I might tinker with this one some more...
Posted by Red BWC (Member # 818) on :
Sorry, Toph, dont like them at all.
Try something between LN-67 and the ones on the Ingram. (Type escapes me at the moment)
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Well I like them. I like them a lot, actually.
I moved the impulse deck back some to make room for an arboretum/rec deck in the aft portions of the saucer. And I finally added some torpedo launchers
Posted by Red BWC (Member # 818) on :
Are they thin or cylindrical (I know I spelled that wrong)
They are actually starting to grow on me actually. Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
They're more of an ellipse, I suppose. Longest axis would be top to bottom.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Some more doodling...
No name for this one yet.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Nice; sort of a pre-Akira. How about Resolute class?
Posted by CaptainMike: Director's Edition (Member # 709) on :
the term 'pre-Akira' equals comedy paydirt in my book.
BWC that is the first word you ever spelled right, but you still managed to look like a dope by bringing attention to the fact that you dont think you spelled it right. kudos on that..
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
It's not really much of a pre-Akira. There's a saucer (a round one at that), with a thing on the back of the saucer like on the Excelsior, with the pylons coming out of that.
Posted by Red BWC (Member # 818) on :
You know, this could be kin to Lobo's Volantis Class he made up...
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