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Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :

Altered my Saladin to make the Hermes, which is virtually identical. Here's one pic.

Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

Ok, besides from the NCC-595, what's different?

Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :

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Originally posted by Matrix:
Ok, besides from the NCC-595, what's different?

Ask Franz Joseph. [Smile]

Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :

There are no Phaser arrays on the top of the saucer, and no Photon Torpedo tubes on the ventral side - the Saladin is armed this way as it's a Destroyer. But physically, yes, it's identical.

Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :

I wonder why they left out those features. That's like building an F-14 without any weapons. That's just a minor feature and wouldn't have killed anyone if those engineers had added some additional phasers like they did with the Saladin.

[Confused]

Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :

well, not adding those features didn't kill anyone, so it really doesn't matter.

Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :

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Originally posted by Prismatic EdipisReks:
[...]not adding those features didn't kill anyone[...]

LOL! Had to read it twice to get it. [Smile]

Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :

I think the idea was that taking out most of the weapons (there was still the main phaser bank on the lower saucer) left more room for more advanced sensors. Or something like that. Because there was no text accompanying the drawings, though, that's unfortunately just conjecture.

Oh, and nice job, Mark! [Smile]

Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :

Cheers. Well as a Destroyer the Saladin required competant armaments. As a Scout, The Hermes does not, and in favour though of additional sensor arrays MM suggested. It's as simple as that I suppose. I only wish Jospeh had changed the design a little more...

Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Phaser turrets might look like little half-spheres sitting on the surface , but I think that they should be associated with quite extensive subsurface machinery weighing a couple hundred tons. Otherwise, what prevents a ship from being peppered with phaser turrets? On surface battleships everything is built around the biggest guns that can be carried, but on starships, weaponry seems like an afterthought. I'm not saying that mixed-use cruisers/destroyers should be turned into a fan-boy's wet dream bristling with weaponry, but I do think phasers are more than surface ornamentation.

Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :

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Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov:

quote:
Originally posted by Prismatic EdipisReks:
[...]not adding those features didn't kill anyone[...]
LOL! Had to read it twice to get it.

Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :

Yes Masao, I agree. There has to be a very good reason why all ships aren't armed in the same way as standard. Good point. But due to the lack of difference here to the Saladin brings up the question: why is this a specific class in itself? Why isn't it simply a 'Saladin variant'?

Perhaps Starfleet has radically changed its classification system, for it would seem to support the argument that in the 23rd century and before, even slight changes to a ship warranted a new classification, such as the Bonhomme Richard Class, etc

Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :

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Originally posted by The Red Admiral:
Perhaps Starfleet has radically changed its classification system, for it would seem to support the argument that in the 23rd century and before, even slight changes to a ship warranted a new classification, such as the Bonhomme Richard Class, etc

Aha! Yes! Score one for Enterprise-class. [Razz]

Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :

Cool, its like the lollypop destroyer ship from SFC. Man that was a fun game.

Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :

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Aha! Yes! Score one for Enterprise-class.

I never 100% subscribed to the Enterprise Class theory, but this 23rd century classification point might be worth discussing further. I'm going to start a thread about this in S & T.