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Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
Here is the first pic of the Top-view (still wip!):
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Lobo
 
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
 
I wish I had the time to make ships.. damn you are good.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Why do you have Nacelle pylons with no Nacelles?
Are ya going to add some on? This is a WIP after all....
The main body brings to mind the steamrunner. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Why do you have Nacelle pylons with no Nacelles?
Are ya going to add some on? This is a WIP after all....
The main body brings to mind the steamrunner. [Big Grin]

Yeah yeah the nacelles coming soon!
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
I'm curious to see whether the nacelles are above or below the centreline. . . might be quite interesting if they're below. . .
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Soooo.... cooooool....

I love the shape of the saucer. I also like how the bridgr seems to be slightly forward of the center of the saucer. Somewhat Akira-esque in that way.

Nice.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
An interesting design.
Perhaps it might be worth trying something a little unconventional here with the nacelles, like say have the pylons emerge from either side of the primary hull instead of the secondary.
Similar in a way to the Saber configuration.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Jenser! Jenser!

Mark
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
The finished top view.
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Lobo
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Very, very cool. Might we see it with aft-swept nacelles? I'm just wondering...

[Smile]
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Hey, that's a great design! Looks like a frigate-type model -- small and quick. The "ragged" rim of the hull reminds me of the Steamrunner.
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
I really need to see a side view before I can grok it to fullness. . .
 
Posted by E. Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
Impressive. Most impressive.
 
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
Very, very cool. Might we see it with aft-swept nacelles? I'm just wondering...

Yeah, I too think aft-swept pylons might look better. Fwd-swept pylons don't tend to look right on otherwise sleek designs (IMO).

If I was going to further nitpick, I'd say the saucer is a little too busy with (unnecessary?) detail.
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dax:
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
Very, very cool. Might we see it with aft-swept nacelles? I'm just wondering...

Yeah, I too think aft-swept pylons might look better. Fwd-swept pylons don't tend to look right on otherwise sleek designs (IMO).

Thanks!
If i would do that, then would it looks like that:
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quote:

I'd say the saucer is a little too busy with (unnecessary?) detail.

Hmm no. I think the details are ok as they are!
Look at the sovereign saucer:
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What do you think? Is it overload with (unnecessary) details too?

Lobo
 
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
If you're happy with your work how it is and not open to criticism, then why bother displaying it for people to give their opinions?

I'm sorry if my thoughts offended you but I was just telling it how I see it.
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
I post pics here because i WANT opinions of the other members(you can see this on other posts in the Designs, Artwork, & Creativity forum).But if someone says that the saucer has to many details and he don't say why then i can't understand what is wrong with the details.

Lobo
 
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
Fair enough, Lobo. With regards to the saucer detailing, it's the large Sovereign style triangular panels at the front that strike me as excessive and out of place. They just don't look right to me -- I can't explain it better than that. Again though, with their removal your design would look more like the Sovereign-class.

Admittedly, I am quite partial to the Ent-E design so I'm likely being prejudice against your design.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I don't think there's an excessive amount of detail on the saucer so much as I feel that there's not a balanced amount on the aft sections. For instance, it the aft areas had that a coupel of dark colored panels like the ones on the front of the saucer, it might balance it out visually. Same with some of the grid lines. The aft sections have more open panelling.

I really dig the design, I'm just not crazy about forward swept pylons. Maybe straight-to-the-side pylons ala Voyager?
 
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
 
I hope you don't mind me saying, but I like the first saucer better... The forward swept nacelles struts look cool though [Smile]
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
A little update.
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As you can see i've changed the support pylons and stretched the nacelles a bit!

Lobo
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Mmmmmmm......

yummy.
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
Mmmmmmm......

yummy.

Hmm whats now wrong?
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
Ok.
@All: Please feel free and post me here what for an kind of pylones do you wanna see on the ship!

Lobo
 
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lobo:
@All: Please feel free and post me here what for an kind of pylones do you wanna see on the ship!

Actually, I think your new pylons are perfect.
 
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
 
Yes, not being swept forward or backwards makes them correspond better to the design of the saucer, IMHO.

I like it! [Smile]
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
Here is the sideview:
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Lobo
Edit: Link to a larger version.
http://mitglied.lycos.de/mrbrown5/side_a1.jpg

[ October 23, 2002, 20:46: Message edited by: Lobo ]
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
Here is an small auxiliary ship similar to the Captains Yacht or Aero Wing.
It's located on the downside of the saucer.
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Lobo
 
Posted by Warbadden Hawkins (Member # 905) on :
 
Nice ship, what program do you use to make your images? Could you make a front view im extremely interested. Thanx for the post.
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Warbadden Hawkins:
Nice ship, what program do you use to make your images? Could you make a front view im extremely interested. Thanx for the post.

Corel Draw 10.
The front view is coming soon.

Lobo
 
Posted by Yamashiro Den (Member # 510) on :
 
the side view looks great, but for my taste i like the secondary hull to be broader in the top view. great job, as always, Lobo.
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
Thank you!
Here is an Prometeus like version of the ship.
http://mitglied.lycos.de/mrbrown5/promlike.jpg
(But i have to say that i don't like the Prometeus class much)

Lobo
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Uh, I don't get it.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Lobo: When I said, "Mmmmmm... Yummy", I didn't mean anything was wrong. I think it looks awesome! "Mmmm" as in tasty [Smile] I always love your ships, though [Smile]

The side view looks great too. I'm gonna need to see that front view now!
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
Lobo: When I said, "Mmmmmm... Yummy", I didn't mean anything was wrong. I think it looks awesome! "Mmmm" as in tasty [Smile] I always love your ships, though [Smile]

The side view looks great too. I'm gonna need to see that front view now!

It means me a lot if you say this because you are an professional artist and i am just "nothing".

The front view is coming soon.

Lobo

[ October 25, 2002, 09:17: Message edited by: Lobo ]
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
Here are first pics of the MSD:
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http://mitglied.lycos.de/mrbrown5/msdhigh.jpg
(174 kb)

Lobo
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Pretty good! It would have looked a little better and more realistic if instead of putting in "Unnamed Class" you had just left it blank.
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
Upgrade:
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I have changed the saucer section.

Lobo
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
And it is good.
 
Posted by Sarvek (Member # 910) on :
 
Your new design reminds me of a stingray. Is that the idea? It does look good though. Keep it up!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] Have you thought of a class name and a name for the ship?
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
the class name is clearly marked as Unnamed.
 
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
I hate to say this, but I prefer (and really liked) the pre-stingray version. For me, the diamond shaped saucer doesn't feel right here. Perhaps if the nacelles are further apart?
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
*drool*

Very nice.
 
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
 
Front view:
http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/unnamed.jpg
 


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