Maybe you remeber on the concept uniforms for the first TNG Movie. The uniforms were not used for the movie but they made action figures who wore these unifroms. An pic.: (they are looking a bit like the gala unifroms)
I've made "Fact Files" like graphics of these unifroms:
What do you think?
Lobo
[ November 08, 2002, 08:55: Message edited by: Lobo ]
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
wow, great work! i really like that uniform design. it hearkens back to the TOS movie uniforms.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Great work, Lobo. I hate that design though. I always thought it looked thrown together.
"Ok... let's put the rank insignia in a different place... and let's change this and change that... voila! New uniform."
Dunno... I thought the DS9 style unis and then the FC unis were definitely better and I'm glad these never made it to the screen. I like your drawings, though.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: I hate that design though. I always thought it looked thrown together.
you're just jealous that you aren't as tall as that Worf action figure. i personally always thought that the DS9 and FC uniforms were too informal. i always liked the classic red military movie uniforms the best. they looked professional, and you could lower the flap for that after hours lounge look so popular with womenizing captains.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Great rendition, Lobo. Superb work as always.
As far as the uniform design goes, I think it's all right. Would have looked good if they had decided to change uniforms in the later seasons of TNG. On the other hand, the uniform isn't impressive enough to be on the big screen.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I think I'd like the design better if the collar was black. It just looks like they wanted ot make parts of it different but didn't know how. Like the stripes on the sleeves... they just don't go with this style of uni. They worked fine on the TOS and TWoK uniforms... but not here.
I liked the Movie era military uniforms too. Very professional, very cool.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Okay, I missed the stripes on the sleeve. Yeah, you're right, that doesn't really go with a TNG style uniform. The colored collars don't bother me, though, since we've seen before in the movie uniforms (however, the colors should be more muted like they are in the movie uniforms).
I'll also throw in that I like the movie uniforms from movies two through six. They looked profession while looking comfortable and simple. I like the First Contact uniforms, too, but they just don't look comfortable what with the tank top, the undershirt, the vest, and the overcoat. Too many layers.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
All I know about these concept uniforms is that I could take that basic concept and make it look alot sleeker. And I'm sure several other people here could too. I can't ever belive it that those uniforms were approved for use. I'm just glad they were scrapped.
I always thought it was a little rediculous that in "Macrocosm" we saw that Janeway had on a) the outer jacket B) the turtleneck C) the tanktop and D) presumably, a bra of some kind. Why would she need the tank top? Same with the male uniforms. Apparently they routinely wear a t-shirt under their turtlenecks. I don't get that.
And yes... the vest underneath the outer jacket of the FC unis is a bit much.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
And considering how thick and heavy the material looks on the jackets and vests, I hope the actors have a good supply of deodorant.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Ahh, but remember we never had Smell-O-Vision kick in. It's doubly wierd as they shoot in LA, which can be really hot int he summer, and they can't have air-conditioning during the shoot!
Remember O'Brien stripping down in "Paradise"? That was three layers too. It seems that as time goes on, Starfleeters seem to be wearing more clotthing. I'm sure the crew of Enterprise wear only the outer jumpsuit and the button shirt they have under that, plus underwear. The all-time low is of course the TOS uniforms, which routinely show that the male tunics have nothing undeneath.
Mark
Posted by Sarvek (Member # 910) on :
Nice work Lobo. What do plan on doing next?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Why can't they have the AC on during the shoot?
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Lobo, what program do you use to make these? If it's just a bog standard art prog then how do you do it? I've been trying to figure out a good method of drawing uniforms for a while now with little success.
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
I use Corel Draw 10.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
I don't have a problem with rank bands on the cuffs per se, and think they might work with the right uniform; I'd agree, however, that this one itsn't it. The coloured collar seems OK though.
The amount of layers Starfleet officers have on has always seemed a bit ridiculous to me. Although I suspect not all of them have the waistcoat - who else have we seen with it beyond Picard and Sisko? Maybe they like their starship environmentals set a bit on the cool sidfe - but then again, given the choices of night attire and bedlinen (thin sheets for the most part), maybe not. . .
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Maybe "breathable cotton" is REALLY breathable in the future.
AC is off during filming because they make LOTS of noise, which is easily picked up and transmitted in the cavernous soundstages. This is one of the reasons why many scenes sound dubbed - they are, because of sounds they can't eliminate.
Mark
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
I'd always thought these uniforms would have made a good appearance as being from an alternate/parallel universe.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Wow... you did this in CorelDRAW 10!? You must have a different CorelDRAW 10 than me
Great work!
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Very nice work! i don't think the design is too bad, although I prefer the FC ones (despite the layers ). I do think the movie 2-6 uniforms were the best designs though.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I don't think the 'vest' is always under there. I believe it was made as a 'substitute vest' a la picard's cool jacket that made it's debut in Season 5's "Darmok". Which was in turn made in response to the accusation that Kirk had a different top every now and then... why can't Picard!!
Andrew
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
What's so cool about Picard's jacket? I've always thought it looked horrible.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Come on! Leather shoulders and a suede jacket? A grey undershirt? What's not to like? Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I think in "Rocks and Shoals", Sisko told Dax that her "vest would take a little longer". He was drying her clothes over a fire and had just handed her part of her uniform. That implied to me that any officer could wear that vest thing under their jacket. However... with the way that Jadzia's curves showed through that uniform, it certainly didn't appear that she had any great deal of padding under there.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Wait, by vest thing do you mean the black and grey waistcoat? Because unless they actually showed it, I doubt that's what Sisko meant.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I don't think they showed it. The most I remember seeing is a heap of clothes around the fire. And I think everyone was sitting around in their underwear. It's possible that he could've been talking about the outer jacket. Or maybe there's some female version of the vest that we haven't seen before.
Personally, I've always thought Jadzia would look hot in one of those vests... but she looks hot in most things.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
I thought she looked really hot in that torpedo tube.
Posted by Herr Kapitan Mike (Member # 709) on :
she looked pretty hot floating in midair in front of Dukat at the temple.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Oh my god... I have those figures... next to my Cadet Picard one that Playmates released back in the 1990's.
Posted by Herr Kapitan Mike (Member # 709) on :
'back in the 1990s' !?
it was less than 10 years ago! youre making me feel old..
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Ahh, the good ole days of the distant past... Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Herr Kapitan Mike: 'back in the 1990s' !?
it was less than 10 years ago! youre making me feel old..
WHAT YEAR IS THIS!?! Less than 3 years ago don't you mean.
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i personally always thought that the DS9 and FC uniforms were too informal. i always liked the classic red military movie uniforms the best. they looked professional, and you could lower the flap for that after hours lounge look so popular with womenizing captains.
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It's doubly wierd as they shoot in LA, which can be really hot int he summer, and they can't have air-conditioning during the shoot!