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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 


I got bored one afternoon and started coming up with ribbons for Starfleet that would be worn on the dress uniform. TOS had the, albeit weird triangular ones, the TOS movies had them as well.

Ribbon Definitions:
Medal of Honor: Established in 1861 by President Lincoln, it has been America's highest honor. So high that if an enlisted servicemember were to be awarded with it, no matter how low in rank, the highest ranking admiral/general would be required to salute him.
The Starfleet Medal of Honor is the Federation's highest honor, issued only by the President of the Federation.

Silver Star: Starfleet's highest award, typically receiving this would probably require dying in the line of duty. Based off the Navy Cross.
For example, my ship, the USS Fitzgerald DDG-62, was named after LT Fitzgerald who received the Navy Cross after giving his life to provided cover fire for his men to escape a raid during Vietnam.


Meritorious Starfleet Service: Mostly awarded to career officers after 20 years of service. Still a high level personal award of a highly distinguished career.

Superior Defense Service: Awarded to recognize acts of selfless heroism while defending the Federation.

Purple Heart: Awarded to those injured in combat.
The Purple Heart was originally called the Badge of Merit by General George Washington, it was the first military decoration in the form of a cloth heart. It was discountinued after the Revolutionary War, however reinstated by General Douglas MacArthur in 1932.

Starfleet Outstanding Service: Issued to crewmembers by the commanding officer of a starship/starbase to recognize service above and beyond the call of duty.

Presidential Unit Citation: Awarded to an entire starship's crew for acts of the Federation. For example, successful first contact missions or diplomatic missions.

Meritorious Unit Commendation: Awarded to the crew of a starship after a successful deep space deployment.

Prisoner of War: Recognizes those captured in the line of duty.

Starfleet Expeditionary: Awarded to starship crews that explore unknown regions of space and make discoveries such as new races and technologies that benefit the Federation.

Starfleet Defense Service: Given to all those that join Starfleet after completion of Starfleet Academy or Enlisted Specialist Training Camps.
The SDS is a mix of the Navy's National Defense, Humanitarian Aid, and Armed Forces Expeditionary medals since Starfleet provides all those functions for the Federation.

Dominion War Victory Medal: Awarded to those that served in Starfleet during the Dominion War. The gold represents victory, the two dark red bands the blood loss and casualities. The two green bands, the hope of peace after the war. The three bands in the center represent the alliance that won the war. Blue for Federation, green for the Romulans, and red for the Klingons.

Starship Service Award: Given after completion of every three years tour of duty on a starship.

Expert Phaser Markman: Awarded to those with exceptional skill with Type-1 through Type-3 phaser hand weapons.

Starfleet Honor Cadet: Awarded to a single cadet every graduating class with the highest performance for their four years at the academy.
 
Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :
 
The stars on the metal of honor should be more like the star shapes seen in the United Federation Of Planets Seal and less like the United States flag.

The Dominion War Victory should have more purple two bold purple stripes instead of red, it would fit the Dominion's colors well.

Other then that, looks cool.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Why is the "Presidential Unit Citation" an upside-down Armenian flag?
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
I... don't... know. Weird. I never even see the Armenian flag or knew what or where Armenia was until you brought that to my attention.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
You're supposed to defend our country, and you don't know where other countries are? I feel safe.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Well, tell you what, the day the vast forces of the Armenian Navy sail up the Potomac and lay waste to Washington D.C., we'll have him court-martialed.
 
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
 
Good job Hobbes. You should also put in there the Combat Action Ribbon for the ships in battle and maybe a Borg attack ribbon too.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Would the Cochrane Medal of Honor also be on this list? I know we've heard of someone getting that (Sisko, I think).
 
Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
 
Wasn't that the Christopher Pike medal in "Tears of the Prophets?"
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Hmmmm... could have been. My memory fails. But now that you mention it, I think both have been mentioned.
 
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
 
www.ussmiranda.com

This site has an extensive list of ribbons if you're stuck for ideas. Site's pretty cool too.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
I couldn't find the ribbons there.

I didn't want to go overboard and make too many of them. I may add more though. In Star Trek the awards/ribbons/medals have never been consistant. Kind of like Starfleet general orders and regulations. They just got made up as they went along.

According to the encyclopedia, Sisko was given the Christopher Pike Medal of Valor. They have a pic of it, so I'll probably add it if I make more.

I don't plan on making a Borg ribbon. Instead I figure it would be a variety of awards, Superior Defense Service, Purple Heart, and a Combat Action Ribbon if I made one. I thought of doing a Cardassian War Ribbon.
 
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
 
Also maybe for a shithot helmsmen a DFC, maybe a Wolf 359 ribbon also
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Which reminds me. I made this a while ago. IIRC, this was worn by that fat incompetent Klingon from STV (Korrd or something?). Name is my own invention.

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Posted by The Captain from M.I.K.E. (Member # 709) on :
 
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Honor Badge of the Khitomer Peace Mission
Awarded to all personnel recognized as honorable attendees to the Khitomer Peace Conferences. Each ribbon presentation has a Klingon-made replica of an ancient Klingon honor pip, one of the oldest examples of Klingon militaria and rank insignia from the dynasty of Kahless.

Notable recipients: Crews of
Enterprise-A, Excelsior, Starfleet representatives and Federation diplomatic envoys Sarek and Curzon Dax.
 
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
 
Also Hobbes, your Starfleet Expeditionary Medal looks a little bit like the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal
 
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
 
Belay my last, the Defense Medal is the one I was talking about not the Starfleet Expeditionary. Sorry
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
This is the GWOT Expeditiony: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/200303134a.jpg

It's one of the medals I got for WestPac during Operations Enduring Freedom/Iraqi Freedom. I also got a Sea Service Ribbon and a Navy Unit Citation.

The Starfleet Defense Service is suppose to look a little like the National Defense, as I said in the first post.
 
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
 
Since ribbons in the US go out for almost all wars we have been in shouldn't there be:

Cardassian War Medal (23** to 2366)
Sector 001 Defense Medal
Kzinti (spl) War Medal

Then of course there should be;

Long Term Exploration Medal
Something they would give to an officer after serving on board the ship that goes to outer reaches of known space for years much like the USS Stargazer would have had.
Good Conduct Award
In the US Navy, when you wear your medals and awards it's actually a little history for another sailor reading it. So if you don't have a good conduct award and you have a four year strip (or is it three year, Hobbes?) it shows that you fucked up somewhere along the way.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"Kzinti (spl) War Medal"

Well, it's spelled "Tzenkethi"...
 
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
 
Nice work.

Since you write that the Silver Star is the highest Starfleet medal, shouldn't the first one be the Presidential Medal of Honor or something like that instead of Starfleet Medal of Honor?

I remember when the Doctor on Voyager was awarded some medal related to Christopher Pike (Medal of Valor/Honor?), and if I recall correctly, it looked just like a standard pip. We don't see ribbons and medals on uniforms (even dress uniforms) after the TOS movie era, it seems. I guess in the fictional world, their display disappeared around the same time that the enlisted rank insignia vanished.
 
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
 
Yeah I got the GWOT Expeditionary Medal in the IO/Persian Gulf during Enduring Freedom and the Med during Iraqi Freedom. The Good Conduct Medal is mostly worn by enlisted personnel and the only officers that wear it are ones that are prior enlisted. It is given every 3 years of good conduct. So the only person I can think of in Star Trek that would wear it is Chief O'Brien
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Matrix:
So if you don't have a good conduct award and you have a four year strip (or is it three year, Hobbes?) it shows that you fucked up somewhere along the way.[/i]

The Good Conduct Medal is given for three consecutive years of good services, ie, no Captain's Mast. I figure minor things like a Counciling Chit from your Leading Petty Officer wouldn't prevent you from getting it. Hash marks are the red stripes on the left sleeve of the dress uniforms. They're given for every four consecutive years of good service. You can't have one without the other. There's no way you're going to get a hash mark if you couldn't get a Good Conduct Medal. After 12 consecutive years of good services you can replace the red hash marks and chevrons in your rating badge with gold version.
The Air Force is a little different. They have a ribbon for everything... like being able to tie their boots correctly. Instead of hash marks and Good Conduct Medal, they get a Longevity Service Award.

The first ribbon is the Federation Medal of Honor. Please read the post. I already it can only be issued by the President of the Federation. The Silver Star is Starfleet's high honor, which can be issued to personnel by admirals. The Navy's highest honor it can give is the Navy Cross, the Navy can't give anyone a Medal of Honor, only the President. The Air Force's highest honor is the Air Force Cross and the Army has the Distinguished Service Cross.
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Captain's Mast. *snigger*
 
Posted by Woodside Kid (Member # 699) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes:
The Air Force is a little different. They have a ribbon for everything... like being able to tie their boots correctly. Instead of hash marks and Good Conduct Medal, they get a Longevity Service Award.

Well, at least when I was in the Air Force (83-94) we got a Good Conduct Medal; mine has an oak leaf cluster.

And as for the crack about "tie their boots", my answer is the one I gave my brother when he said the Navy didn't give nonsense ribbons: "No, they give nonsense stripes!"
 
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes:
I couldn't find the ribbons there.

Go to the "Ship Database" and select "Medals" at the bottom of the screen. [Smile]
 
Posted by Pensive's Left testes for mayor... (Member # 1203) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by akb1979:
www.ussmiranda.com

This site has an extensive list of ribbons if you're stuck for ideas. Site's pretty cool too.

[Big Grin]

Thank you. This site is actually useful indeed. he uses ships cannon, speculative and what not from both offical, books and the Games...

quite useful indeed.
 
Posted by Pensive's Left testes for mayor... (Member # 1203) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
Captain's Mast. *snigger*

snicker all you want. 'Capt's Mast' for the Navy, possible the Coast Guard as well; 'Office hours' for the Marines; 'Article 15' for the Army i think (if it has a local name, i don't know of it)
 
Posted by ulTRS magDOS (Member # 239) on :
 
He sniggered, to be fair.
 
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
 
You only go to that if you really fucked up.

I might be wrong since my BMR pretty much drowned in beer, but Hash Marks are only the indications of how long you served. For each one you get is how many reenlistments you had. So you have two that means you have been in greater than 8 years but less than 12. I only say this because on some POs you can see red hash marks as opposed to gold ones. Where I am from, if you are qualified to wear something, then you must wear it. The only exceptions are the collar devices on the coveralls and anytime you need to wear the metal ones. Even then you're ranks must match, just doesn't have to be gold. But on dress uniforms you must have gold if you are qualified.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
I've seen gold E-5's and I have to wonder. We had a guy, OS2 Powell, with gold second class chevrons. He only recently made first. I think if I were ever a gold second I wouldn't let anyone know.

The Air Force on the other hand is lucky to make E-6 in 12 years. That's how bad their promotion is. I knew a guy, FC1 Wolfe, picked up first class last year and it took him less than 4 years to make E-6. In the Navy it isn't unheard of, but the Air Force it would be impossible considering the USAF is a such a cake-ass military branch no one leaves so there's no room for promotion.
 
Posted by ulTRS magDOS (Member # 239) on :
 
Take that, Air Force slobs! Air Force is jerks!!
 
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes:

The first ribbon is the Federation Medal of Honor. Please read the post. I already it can only be issued by the President of the Federation.

I did read your post.

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes:

The Starfleet Medal of Honor is the Federation's highest honor, issued only by the President of the Federation.

And I replied...

quote:
Since you write that the Silver Star is the highest Starfleet medal, shouldn't the first one be the Presidential Medal of Honor or something like that instead of Starfleet Medal of Honor?
I figured you meant to write a different title, but I just wanted to point that out to you.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ulTRS magDOS:
Take that, Air Force slobs! Air Force is jerks!!

heh... not quite what I was going for UM. Myself, like most sailors, just like to make fun of the Air Force whenever possible. It's not serious, more like friendly rivialary. In the end, we realize we're all on the same team.

It's not just limited to them either, the Marines for example, Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential. Or My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment.
 
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
 
My old Chief (E-7) MMC Lenz made E-7 in 6 years, the one I had after him AOC Meers made it in 9.
 


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