My apoliogies if someone else has mentioned this, but my search did not turn up any posts of the topic...
The new Starship Exeter fanfilm "The Tressaurian Intersection" is being released in segments on the web. The Teaser came out the other day. Link to Teaser (MOV file): 30mb
The script for this one is by Dennis Russell Bailey, who wrote the TNG episodes Tin Man and First Contact.
It's worth a look. They did a great job on an opening push into the bridge dome a la The Cage.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Yay, I guess. The sets and FX are top-notch for this level, though as usual the costumes need work (I have yet to see a truly convincing fan costume in a movie, even on the correct body types as seen in the clip).
Oh, and Garrovick is trying WAY too hard to channel Kirk.
Mark
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Oh dear. Oh dear. Agreed the sets are great, and that starship at the start looks good - is that CGI or a model?
but... but... the ACTING - the HORROR! It's SO bad.
What is with that Andorian's antennae? They didn't even look that bad in TOS! The acting though - oh dear. Shocking.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
to be fair, even in the 60's studios had a way to make the antennae and people who's job it is to do it, your average joe doesn't.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
So is this the one (the "show," that is, not this specific installment) that Koenig is in?
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
No. That's New Voyages, the one with a new Kirk. That episode with Koenig is even being written by DC Fontana Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Instead of full episodes why don't they try tackling smaller length features like some of those Star Wars fan movies?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Hmm. Yah, the ship and the FX were really good. Even the transporter effect was cool. And the wreck of the Kongo's saucer section was impressive.
The only uniform I was horrified by was the captain's. Dear lord. The worst part about the acting is the timing. They trounce all over each other's lines. But the story actually sounded pretty good.
Kinda neat how the female XO put pants on before beaming down, though fairly stupid that the Ensign didn't. I'm trying to figure out if the XO's accent is real or faked. Sort of sounded like she was trying to do an Uhura impersonation.
Credits were bad. The voiceover sounds as though it's being read by an android programmed for human speech.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Man, I definitely have to ge the sound working on my PC now...
Posted by DoughBoy05 (Member # 1417) on :
Well this is the first planet ever visited that has RAIN (unless you count that Whale Probe thing) but apparently humans haven't re-invented JACKETS after losing that piece of fashion technology during WW3
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
(What about the landing party coats in Wrath of Khan, huh, huh?)
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
(Oh, and: Ferenginar!)
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Oh, and "The Cage" - the VERY FIRST EPISODE EVER MADE?!
But.. Have we ever seen an UMBRELLA in Trek before? Hmm?
Mark
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Regarding the acting: The people running the show are the people acting in it. if I made a fan film, I'd find it hard to avoid the temptation to do the same thing (I can't act, but can sing and dance ok). But only a few lucky filmmakers can get away with being a successful multi-hyphenate. Others should be aware of their limitations!
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Also Galorndon Core. For the rain. Not the acting.
I would have liked to have seen some bad weather gear in the TNG era though, other than the aluminum foil suits that Odo and Quark had to share.
Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
Weren't Starfleet away teams equipped with coats in both Star Trek II and Star Trek III?
You'd think that with the most advanced sensors the 24th century could produce, they'd be able to figure out the weather over the area they were about to transport into and dress accordingly. They could have a closet or something in the transporter room itself and the computer could make recomendations as to appropriate gear and clothing. Why gather up equipment before heading to the transporter room? Come in your uniform and grab your tricorder, coat, parka, environmental suit, etc. from the locker just before you beam out.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
The XO is supposed to have an accent? I thought that was a speech impediment...
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Actors tend to cost money. They may not have access to many people who both have the free time to give AND the talent.
As for clothes, perhaps in the future the clothes they have are good enough. Plus extra costumes cost money too. Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
I've had a bit of experience in no/low-budget films. Actors often work for free for the sake of gettting a credit.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
There was rain in The Cage?
Oh, wait, you mean the jackets... never mind.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Don't get me wrong... if I was doing a fan production, I'd cast myself as the captain too... and I'd all sorts of suck. I think anyone who's willing to put the time and cash into something that, overall, came out as good as this did deserves high geek honors. There are just some improvements I'd make were it me.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Man, if they just went with a diffrent crew/ship and explained why in fuck everyone is so young it would not be so....distracting.
You'd also think they would offer parts to aspiring actors instead of aspiring fans.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Will actors take a Trek fanfilm seriously? I somehow doubt it. I personally have never found these free actors everyone is talking about, but then Vancouver probably isn't the best place to look for people who can't get some kind of paid acting work...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I'm talking "local theatre" types here- people who might want to get a bit of experience.....
Anything except for producers who are obviously eager just to be there. Their expressions practically scream "Holy shit: I'm really on Star Trek! Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
I'm quite aware of what you mean. But people who want to get experience may not want a "goofy fan film" to haunt them later.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Let's just hope that a fan Klingon film is never made. I don't think I've EVER seen a decent fan costume of a Klingon. And then they start shouting crap out from all the non-canon stuff.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Plus....Klingons are often (outside of DS9) cringworthy to watch even on the real trek.
Boh, we rarely (if ever) see an actor's humble begnings so I dont think a fan-film would do any real harm. Besides, the local theatre types are not always looking to be movie stars- some really just like acting.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Well, like I said, I'm in Vancouver. Could all be upside-down here with the kids getting their first jobs early for toy commercials and stuff.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Mabye they could get someone with really bad asthma to be Kirk: "Spock....we have....to get...(inhaler)...out of here!" Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Wait till the Binary's fan club starts their film
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
I mentioned Star Wars fan films above. I was just thinking to myself... what other 'cultish' TV shows or movies have spawned their own fan films (of decent quality)?
I'm sure a Lord of the Rings minifilm based on PJ's look for the Trilogy would look cool.
Stargate - now that could be cool - you have SO many places to play in, in the Stargate universe.
B5? Buffy? Walker, Texas Ranger? Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I'd be in a Stargate FanFlick. That'd be pretty cool. It wouldn't even be all that hard to get accurate costumes. Just order from a surplus catalog. They sell patches for the units on-line.
I wanna be a Go'auld. I could probably make a ribbon device if I put enough time into it...
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
You just want to make you eyes glow. (You know, that'd be kinda useful at times...)
B.J.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Like in a powercut.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: I'd be in a Stargate FanFlick. That'd be pretty cool. It wouldn't even be all that hard to get accurate costumes. Just order from a surplus catalog. They sell patches for the units on-line.
I wanna be a Go'auld. I could probably make a ribbon device if I put enough time into it...
I'd do one too! I wanna Zat!
I wonder if we could rope in Vanessa Angel to reprise her Tok'Ra role? Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Mmmm... if we could, I have a fair idea of what kind of story I'd write. It would almost certainly invole a torrid love affair between her and my Go'auld character.
I've trying to figure out, off an on, how to build a staff weapon prop that would actually hold up to mild use. The staff portion could be made easily enough from PVC pipe, but I'm not quite sure how I'd affix the bulbous butt end or the head piece...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Duc[t|k] tape.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR:
I'm sure a Lord of the Rings minifilm based on PJ's look for the Trilogy would look cool.
Late night cable.... "Lord of the G-strings"
SERIOUSLY...I bet Jason heard of it.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune:
I've trying to figure out, off an on, how to build a staff weapon prop that would actually hold up to mild use. The staff portion could be made easily enough from PVC pipe, but I'm not quite sure how I'd affix the bulbous butt end or the head piece...
I'd start with a wooden dowel similar to the ones used in closets. It would be heftier and you can always use gorilla snot to add other pieces
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Would you have the end pop-open?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
No. I'm not good enough to do anything moving. Realistically, the best I could probably hope for is a PVC or wodden dowel with carved styrofoam (or similarly carvable material) details and paint. Wouldn't hold up to much use, but it might look groovy hanging on a wall. I'll get to it in my free time.
Posted by Wee Bairns (Member # 1324) on :
I really like the visuals, if not the acting. The wreckage of the Kongo and the Cage bridge shot were well done, as was the TOS-looking orbit shot. The beam-in was effectively done, too.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Yah, the beam-in was good. The focus shift from the befuzzled captain and landing party to the wreck of the Kongo in front of them was good too. What's odd is that probably every special effect in that production is better than on the original series.
But then I see Garrovick's man-boobs jiggling and my suspension of disbelief is shattered.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: But then I see Garrovick's man-boobs jiggling and my suspension of disbelief is shattered.
He's just staying true to Shatner Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
So...is that guy in the cloak supposed to be Beachhead? Like Pumpkinhead or Earserhead?
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Also Galorndon Core. For the rain. Not the acting.
I would have liked to have seen some bad weather gear in the TNG era though, other than the aluminum foil suits that Odo and Quark had to share.
The New one!!!!! finally after 3, billion viewings of the Teaser....
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
OMG! I've said it before and I'll say it again - the Captain is CRAP. His acting is shocking. His reaction times - the pauses/beats - are just way too long.
ENOUGH!
The Doctor wasn't too good either - like he was reading his lines.
The Science Officer is a more capable actor/character.
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
Considering its a fan effort, kudos to them.
The guy playing Garovick (just to add to the echo) honks like bad cheese.
I can cope with the doctor having his lines on the desk, as long as they get a transfer at some stage, but asside from the obvious lack of people with acting experience, it was ok.
Lets face it, it was better than some episodes of Voyager.
If they kept it up, it probably has potential, but I think I'll sit on the fence til I see what happens next.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
...Right.
Back to re-watching "In the Pirkinning" for me.
Mark
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
This has been mentioned before, but for this production to become better, the people behind the camera need to stay behind the camera. The fellow playing the captain should realize that his acting and lack of screen presence is hurting the production. The strength of Trek always rests with the performance of the commander.
From a tech point of view, they need some eye lights for close ups and soft focus for the women.
Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
Well, I know for a fact that a one problem they were having is that the sets weren't completely done by the time they needed to shoot, which limited the amount of time that was available to do lighting setups and retakes.
And as to the acting, yeah, in an ideal situation you get actors to act, but this is a fan production with no money to spend on actors. And they weren't able to get as many people with acting experience as they wanted.
Seriously, it's easy to say "they should have done this" or "they should have done that" but reality is that you rarely get to do things the way you want. So...bunt!
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
You know... the funny thing is... I think that those guys (and gal) from "Night shift" clip sound and act more natural and more believeable than main cast Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Okay.. so does that science officer have a psychic link to here instruments, or what? She sure has a lot of info, without EVER looking at her console.
The effects and sets are very convincing, the acting a bit less so. It seems the extras are better than the main cast. And there are some minor pieces of plot that seem a bit strange. Why did no-one even react on Cutty's suggestion of blowing the weapon up? It sounded like a good idea to me...
It's impressive though, what dedicated fans can do today. Those interior shots of the destroyed Kongo were lightyears ahead of TOS Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
And speaking of looking... At least more fan productions these days ARE setting some standards for the actors to look the part as you'd expect - there are few stereotypical "sweaty round fans" playing lead parts these days. Just watch out for corridor scenes, Admirals, and the occasional ill-fitting uniform...
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