Crazy visions! Baltar in the dream! This would be a connection to the bit on Kobol from season 1, I'd wager.
What is Hera's obsession with Six?
D'Anna will be unboxed and all will be revealed, eh?
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
But more important - Centurions lack social skills!
So Caprica-Six is right now headed for the Resurrection hub...just in time for them to blow it up.
Felix is practicing for Aerelon's Got Talent.
The Hybrid freaks out and jumps everyone to...where? Deep space? Earth? Cylon homebase?
Speaking of which, I'm starting to think the Cylons don't actually have a settled homeworld, just a series of bases and space stations.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
To quote the Tenth Doctor: "WHAT!?"
More on this later, when my brain has made some sense of all the happenings. Random thoughts:
- The Dying Leader may have been the Six, not the President. No idea what that means yet.
- Hybrids freaking out even more than usual.. that's not a good sign, I guess.
- Wait.. why wasn't Athena asked by the President to join her to see the Hybrid? Did I miss something?
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
This was the best ep this season, to me anyway.
While Apollo Mk I is going to be (acting) Pres will Apollo Mk II be the (acting) Vice?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
So Athena shoots ____Six, does that mean the "prophecy" has been altered, or is everything going as planned?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
The Six that was shot wasn't Caprica-Six. Caprica-Six is in the Galactica's brig. This Six copy is Natalie.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
The prophecies of the dying leader also mention a wasting disease... something that seems to specifically apply to Roslin alone.
Notice also that the rebel Cylons still have a hidden agenda? What a surprise that is! Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah, but would the final five willingly go with these rebels. Maybe Tori, but not Anders, Tyrol, and Tigh.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I was surprised that when Tigh said "The president's scriptures are the way to Earth" neither Roslin nor Adama went "Wait, what?" I mean, Tigh isn't the most pious man, is he? As in, doesn't he think it's all a load of shit?
It was creepy when Hera said "bye bye" after Sharon woke up.
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Well at least the title of the episode really fits... in a sick, twisted manner.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Is it my imagination, or has Hera undergone a sudden growth spurt?
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
:closes eyes so as to not read spoilers:
What, SciFi.com doesn't have this up on their website yet? I've watched the last 3 or 4 episodes on SciFi.com. Where is this one? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?
If anyone knows where I can watch this episode online (I'm not home at the moment), please let me know either in this thread or PM.
Thanks,
Herb
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Didn't we go through this with another thread a few weeks ago? Anyway, I'm loathe to recommend it based on the nasty studio/distributor/retailer politics going on, but Hulu is still reputed to be a fairly decent website. (Me, I'd pay two bucks to not have commercials, but apparently NBC doesn't want my money.)
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Thanks.
Looking at Hulu now. I'm not seeing this week's episode.
I'll just catch it when I get home.
Hmmm... what to watch now...
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: It was creepy when Hera said "bye bye" after Sharon woke up.
It's *always* creepy when you wake up and your kids are standing there staring at you. Downright scares the crap out of you sometimes.
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: Is it my imagination, or has Hera undergone a sudden growth spurt?
Well, how old is she supposed to be? She's about 3 or 4, counting the "One Year Later", right? So she looks about right to me.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Yeah, but it seems like just last episode she wasn't old enough to walk, let alone speak.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Yeah, that's what I meant. After the "one year later" she was still tiny and wraped up like a few month old baby. Not long ago she was still very newborn-like, now all of a sudden it's as if the writers realised she's about 18 months old now. Hence sudden growth spurt.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Was she even seen last episode? I can't remember... You may be confusing Hera and Nicholas...?
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
I didn't think we'd seen Hera for a while.
Plus, she was this size running in the corridors of the Opera House the last time the vision was scene, and that was last season.
It's hard for me to keep up with how much time is passing. Are we keeping up with the general rule of one season = one year?
Wiki says she was born approx. 9 months after the Cylon attack and that now she's about 2 years old. That might be about right.
Finally watched it last night after work. I loved the opening with the arrival of the Basestar. Question - Who sabotaged the Basestar's com system?
I knew the Basestar would jump the moment the President said "plug it in." That was the last command when it was unplugged.
Could Gaeta have gotten better care on the Basestar before they returned to the fleet? True, they are machines and the ship was heavily damaged but I would have thought it could have better medical facilities than the sewage ship.
My question still remains: who is Kara the harbinger of death for? Humans? Cylons? The mission is to go destroy the resurrection hub.
Tigh never struck me as overly spiritual either but it was funny watching him try anything he could to NOT unbox the 3s and have them reveal that he (and the others) are Cylons. Looks like this will be revealed in two weeks.
Yes, I was confused by the end too. The President told Starbuck to find Sharon (at least that is what it sounded like). Next thing we know she's leaving for the baseship without Athena.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
No, she asked for "Lt. Agathon." =Helo.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I didn't think the comm system was sabotaged. I was sure Athena said it was "blown," and I thought she implied it had to do with the jump and the basestar's damage and the syncing of the Ratpor's sysops. Or maybe I just assumed all that.
I sort of doubt the Cylons have better medical facilities. Their doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with Hera, after all, and I was pretty surprised to hear they even *had* doctors - why not just take a sick Cylon, shoot them in the head, and wait for the download? In any case I'm sure Gaeta wouldn't have trusted them to help him, or even if he did, would've refused their help out of principle. So would most of the Demetrius' crew, I'm sure.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Someone ever straighten Tigh out as to who shot Gaeta?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Hey wait, isn't Helo a captain now? (Yes, he is.) Sharon's the lieutenant. So Herb was right.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
So why was Helo walking with Roslin? Or am I not remembering things clearly?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
You're remembering it clearly. I think the president was referring to Helo, too. But either someone got his rank wrong in the dialogue (actress, character, or writers), or he got demoted somewhere and we didn't hear about it.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Similarly I'd expect Tigh got informed about Anders capping Gaeta off-screen. I don't think it's really something that needs to be shown. If it makes you feel any better:
Tigh: "So, again, since I frakkin haven't been answered yet, which one of those frakkin Toasters frakkin shot Gaeta?"
Thrace: "My frakkin sort-of husband did it because there was a frakkin mutiny."
Tigh: "What the frak!?"
finis Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I thought Roslin asked for Captain Agathon.
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
Ditto.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
re Cylon medicine: while "death" (as opposed to Death) is no big deal for them, we do know it can be profoundly unpleasant. Cottle was treating Cylons on New Caprica, and we didn't see any Cylon medics there, but he could just have been closer to those particular injuries. Anyway, the Cylons obviously have some crazy good bioengineering skills, which might or might not translate into being able to grow Gaeta a new leg or, I don't know, attach a Centurion's or something. At this point in the series, I'm not so sure Gaeta would automatically say no, were the option presented. (I think he probably would say no, but it would be interesting.)
re medical issues the Cylons are unable to resolve despite their advancements: reproduction. (Though perhaps that's a block in their programming?)
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
I guess Kara Thrace being the Harbinger of Death may refer to her destroying the resurrection hub, thus giving the gift of Death to the Cylons.
Am I beginning to quote the First Hybrid every week now? I don't know, but he seems to know the whole of Season Four. I think it's quite awesome that what sounded like prophetic nonsense at the time actually seems to be quite true to the story so far:
quote:At last, they’ve come for me. I feel their lives, their destinies spilling out before me. The denial of the one true path, played out on a world not their own, will end soon enough. Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening, struggling with the knowledge of their true selves. The pain of revelation bringing new clarity and in the midst of confusion, he will find her. Enemies brought together by impossible longing. Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable. And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering. I can see them all. The seven, now six, self-described machines who believe themselves without sin. But in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of one splintering into many. And then, they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning.
The "four awakening" are obviously the Penultimate Four. "He will find her" probably refers to Leoben finding Kara Thrace. Now.. the "howl of terrible suffering" might point a finger towards Gaeta being the Final Cylon... but make of it what you will... I bet the "angel" is Kara Thrace.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I rather think the "howl of terrible suffering" would be the resurrection hub going boom. As in the kind of howl that gives the Jedi a migraine from half a galaxy away.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
No, that howl of terrible suffering wasn't coming from Gaeta. It was coming from me, having to LISTEN to Gaeta!
"I'd rather... just... sing!" "Stop that, stop that! You're not going to do a song while I'm here."
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Y'know Anders mentioned Gaeta's singing to the other members Penultimate Four. Could he be implying what Gaeta's a cylon?
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
I thought that when I heard his singing. I'd also just watched the Ood episode of Dr. Who two days earlier so I thought about that too.
My thoughts about transferring Gaeta to the basestar was simply to help save his leg in the first place. Get him proper sterile treatment and stave off gangrene setting in. Surely they could have gone in, gotten the bullet out and cleaned up the infection.
Personally I think it would have gone a long way to proving the Cylons could be trusted.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Roslin definitely asked for Captain Agathon.
quote:Originally posted by B.J.:
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: [qb]It was creepy when Hera said "bye bye" after Sharon woke up.
It's *always* creepy when you wake up and your kids are standing there staring at you. Downright scares the crap out of you sometimes.
Nothing is more terrifying than having your child, only recently in a bed that she can get out of on her own, walk into your room in the middle of the night. It freaks you out - SOMEONE IS COMING INTO YOUR BEDROOM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT!!! Then you stop waking up when she does, so instead you have the confusion of finding a third person in bed with you when you wake in the morning and wondering when she came in. And the older she gets, the niggling worry now becomes "Dammit, am I going to have to start wearing pyjamas?"
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
*shrug* I don't think parental nudity is harmful to children. Go ask the nudist families.
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: *shrug* I don't think parental nudity is harmful to children. Go ask the nudist families.
Two words: Morning. Wood.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Images. Images. Where's a bloody fork...
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Somewhat near the original topic....
Has Helo ever expressed concern (or any thoughts/feelings whatsoever) about the fact that *he's* the reason Baltar survived the original attack on Caprica? Seems like there's several people who'd like to call him out on that one.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Not many people knew about it, and most of those were civilians who probably don't even know his name or barely remember his face. Only Boomer would really remember that and well. She's not gonna tell. Oh, and maybe he told Athena at some point, but when they were on Caprica together he still thought she was Boomer, so prob'ly not.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
In other news, it appears that Cylon baseships run Windows XP. I guess we know why the Cylons rebelled against the Humans!
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Heh. I liked one of the comments there: "I would assume the Colonials run on frakkin' COBOL?"
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Amusing, I suppose, but as a programmer it pains me because COBOL is a language and not an OS.