Okay. The Executor is the only canonical SSD. But the novels are replete with them. We have the Lusankya which was under the buildings of Coruscant. The Lusankya was probably built during Palpatine's first reign. Now, we have the other ones that were built by warlords. Zsinj was given the Iron Fist while Palpatine was still around, but what about his second one? And what about Delvardus's Knight Hammer?
According to the SWTC, the following SSDs were constructed by Palpatine:
Executor Reaper Guardian Vengeance Agressor Iron Fist (Brawl) Lusankya
The following were constructed after Palpatine's death:
Knight Hammer Intimidator Razor Kiss Unknown Unknown
Now, if Palpatine can build the Death Stars, building all those SSDs is pithy in comparison. But how did simple warlords manage to build 5 of them? The Intimidator and the 2 unknowns were in the Black Sword Fleet, and the Intimidator was captured and renamed Pride of Yevetha. These ships are not cheap to build, so how did warlords manage to build them?
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Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :
Perhaps, the Empire was building several in secret and the Warlords just finished them up in some hidden shipyard?
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Well, the only secret SSD was the Lusankya, which was constructed under the Executor's name and buried under Coruscant for Isard.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
I'm missing the Eclipse and Eclipse II in the list above. So I figure you mean Palpatines death in the Death Star II. Because after his 'death' he return 6 or 7 years later in a younger cloned body, and with the Eclipse Class Super Star Destroyer. And again, here he makes a second attempt at the same plan with the Eclipse II.
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Uh, Mike, the Eclipse and Eclipse II weren't SSDs... They were different. A whole new class.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
But both build under supervision of Palpatine and years after the other SSD's.
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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
When you control all functions of a nation, including the industry, building structures like the Death Star and SSD's aren't that difficult... All one needs is the proper motivation. In our time, money is a good enough motivation, but in Star Wars, it'll be different.
How would it be different in SW? Money is still a driving force of their lives.
Here's a pic of the Eclipse in formation with an Imperator, from Frank's site.
And here's the Executor, again from Frank's site.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
That's not an Imperator in front of the Eclipse...it's actually a larger heavy destroyer, the same class as the Allegiance (which also appeared in the Dark Empire comic).
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Oh. Well, that makes the Eclipse even bigger, then
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Yes, like an anaconda Vs. python, it's not necessarily taller, but deeper and thicker. I would like to see that superlaser in action, haven't done that.
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Posted by Red XIV (Member # 1278) on :
That's not an Imperator flying with the Eclipse. Note the lack of any hanger bay, or at least any that's externally obvious.
As for the post-Endor SSDs, Razor's Kiss was built by Kuat Drive Yards itself, not some warlord's comparitively minor shipyard. Intimidator and its sister ships were probably built at Byss, like Eclipse and Eclipse II. After all, Byss is where the Black Fleet survivors went when the recaptured their ships. And low- to mid-level crewers in warlord fleets would hardly have known about Byss prior to the Palpatine clone revealing himself (which happened after the Yevetha captured them). So the only one confirmed to have actually been built BY a warlord was Knight Hammer.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Well, it's good to know that after enduring four years of chronic insomnia from this VERY subject, Topher will be able to sleep soundly again at last!
Posted by Manticore (Member # 1227) on :
lol, talk about a tremendous revival... Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Wow. It's been a while since we had one of those "old thread revivals."
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Is this a new record?
Mark
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Holy crap... I didn't even realize this was an old thread. 2000?! Cripes, I guess someone really had a hard on for SSDs at 9 in the morning...
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Actually Red the 14th is just dealing with some wicked server lag.
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