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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB] [QUOTE] [b]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sean: [QUOTE] But if it's just some fantasy of stopping bad guys like in the movies, or just think "Guns R Fun" like the tool in the linked video, I'd advise against it. Either way, I think you'd be both safer and more personally secure with a self defense course, possibly followed up with some martial arts. [/QUOTE]I'd say that the fact that guns [i]are[/i] fun is reason enough to own a gun. I hope never to have to shoot anything other than a tin can or paper target, but I still get a lot of enjoyment out of owning and shooting the firearms and air rifles that I own. When I'm of age to go through with a pistol permit, I will. Not only because I would like to carry (no, I don't live in a dangerous place, nor am I planning to be a cop. But it's my right, so I am going to.), but because the few times I have been to a range to shoot pistol, I enjoyed it. It was fun. [/QUOTE][/b]I see nothing wrong with that- act responsibly with your firearms and it's all good. I like hitting the range on occasion myself (though I dont feel the need to own one- I just rent one of the range's .45's). [QUOTE][b] In the self defense role, I have no delusions about shooting bad guy...I hope I never have to. But, I'd rather carry a gun and never, ever need it than one day find myself in a situation where I'd be able to say, "Shit, I wish I had my gun", and not have it. A gun is a tool. It's the same reason I carry a knife, really. It's a valuable tool capable of cutting, slicing, dicing, and just about every other task you want to put it to. I have no intention of ever stabbing an attacker (and I'd be worse off than if I had a gun, because knife fighting takes more skill than close range pistol work), but some of the knives I carry are more than capable of being pressed into a self defense role. I never purchase or carry a knife specifically for that reason though. [/QUOTE][/b] See, that's where we differ- A gun is NOT a tool. It's sole use is as a killing weapon, whereas a knife has many uses- and self defense is the very least likely of those. I carry a knife every day and use it almost every day- and I've never needed it for self defense. [QUOTE][b] As for the argument that the police stop a ton of crime, yes, they do. I thank them for that. However, if some nut opens fire on a crowd of people in the mall I'm shopping at, and I happen to be armed, am I going to let that guy kill X number of people while I wait for the cops to get there? I wouldn't feel right about that. I would rather put my gun to good use, consequences of law be damned, than let people die.[/b][/QUOTE]That's he myth the NRA is pushing these days- that gun rampages can be prevented or curtailed by [i]everyone[/i] packing heat. It's never ever happened, and police are very strongly opposed to people getting into a shootout in public places- even police officers, trained for such situations, occasionally miss and hit civillians. In a virginia Tech type of situation, where there are conflicting reports of how many shooters there are and where they are, a civillian is as likely to be targeted by police- and to cause more panic than to be of real assistance. Really, it's amazing how opposed police assiciations are to almost everything the NRA is trying to do leglislation-wise. here in south Florida, cops now have to drive around with assualt rifiles in their cars- a direct result of the assualt weapons ba being lifted (which police groups also were against). [QUOTE][b] The appreciation of guns is twofold, in my eyes. There's the practical value they hold, as a tool for self defense and hunting, etc, and then there's the collect-ability , same as stamps, basically. Some find guns to be beautiful works of art, worthy of a place in their safe. In owning an 1873 Colt Peacemaker, you're owning a bit of history. So if Greg (the man in the video) is a nut, than I am too. :p [/b][/QUOTE]An 1873 Colt Peacemaker (assuming you can afford such a thing) is a far cry from owning a modern arsenal though- an antique tends to apreceate in value (because of it's rairity) while today's mass-produced guns will not. You viewpoints are valid, though I dont share them in general, but then you're not the type of gun owner that I detest either- the guy with dozens of guns- usually unsecured- that feels A) The Government is coimg to take his precious guns away and needs to stockpile and B) that having an arsenal somehow makes him more free. [i]Those[/i] are what I'd deem "Gun Nuts". [/QB][/QUOTE]
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