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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cargile: [QB] Who is giving up freedom? The Law Abiding Citizen? My honest opinion: The US's system doesn't work. People are not afraid to commit crimes. Some people don't have the morals and values not to commit crimes. The use of fear is oppressive, but it works. In Saudi Arabia, if you steal, you lose a hand. In most countries if you are jailed, your family has to provide for you, or you starve. In most countries you have to prove your innocence. "But Paul, that violates the rights of the criminal!" You're damn skippy. Criminal don't deserve rights. Why? Because they violate my rights when they break into my home. They violate [b]my rights[/b] when they take my things. They violate [b]my rights[/b] when they hurt my family or friends. Why should my rights be violated and not theirs in return? Why is it possible for me to be sued for injuring an intruder in my house? That is utterly ridiculous. It's infuriating to know that criminals have more rights than noncriminals. To reduce crime there are two things to do: 1) Teach your children right from wrong, 2) Make criminals suffer. Deglamourize crime. Tell people that if you break the law you will pay severly. Yes, I broke the law myself. But if I knew that I had the chance to be beaten bloody by the State Trooper that pulled me, then I may--no--I wouldn't have driven drunk. I probably wouldn't have gone out. I would not have endangered the community that has decided that drunk driving is dangerous to it. And the law is lax. I haven't really suffered from it. I expected too. The biggest pain came out of my wallet. And I guess that is why I saw people in court going before the judge with two or three DUI convictions behind them. I can't afford another DUI, and that is enough to deter me from doing it again. But maybe not someone else. So I see things from both sides, as the LAC and as the criminal. And I say get hard on crime. Oh and I want to make a point that when I was arrested I did in fact waive my Rights as I was being booked. I waived my Right to Have an Attorney Present. I signed a document that said so. I knew I was guilty. I knew I broke the law willingly. But I was also willing to take responcibilty for my actions. I called my wife and told her where I was, but I did not ask her to bail me out. She took that upon herself for whatever reason she had. Pedro, you got pulled for bullshit, but the Law is there for you. Instead of getting rude in return, get name and badge number, and call a lawer. If you act decent when being pulled over you have a better chance of beating a rap. I'm not for revoking all laws. If you feel the police are doing you an injustice, use the law to report it and have it taken care of. You had a bad experience with the law, and I'm willing to bet you did nothing about it. I had a good experience with the law, even though I broke it. I was wrong, they were right. [i]The main point I want to emphasize is that Cargile's generalization applies as much to me as it does to some dangerous person hooked on PCP. Simply put, they could pull me over for speeding, take a look at my hair and decide to search me. If I refuse (which is, and should be, my right), Cargile's police have the right to use whatever force necessary to make me comply. [/i] In my scenerio the cops were not looking at hair length, or skin color, or vocal accent. I specificaly made it clear that the ploice were trained professionals at determining if someone was under the influecense of drugs. There are tell-tale sign, you know. Plus the driver in my scenerio had a history of offensives. The driver has a lot of strikes against him/her. For a police officer to desire to search your car just because you have long hair is discrimitory, and since it is only one factor, the police in my scenerio would not have the right to revoke you rights and you would not be searched. One reason is far to much power to weld one man. Reread the scenerio and reread it good. Don't just pay attention to the parts that offend you and make comments on it. I've read a lot of posts here that pick out one detail and respond without seeming to understand the whole. I was very specific in my scenerio. And the alternative outcome to that scenerio has not even generated one responce. You have a criminal history (that is what I have infered), and I have a criminal history, but I'm not going to let my criminal histroy dictate to me that I am right to break the law and laws should be passed to protect me from my victims. That is insane. The cops in my scenerio [b]can not[/b] search you just for having long hair. Having long hair and an attitude? Well, maybe you are just a bad seed. Don't blame me for this assumption. Blame the people of your community--the majority--that decree that. The cops don't know you. They know of behaivors that lead to trouble. The cops don't know if you had a bad day. The only thing you should do, regardless of your feeling, is comply with the cops' request. If you are guilty of something and are going to be discovered, then I don't have an ounce of f*cking pity for you. You knew better. And Jeff: Sorry for the potential of abuse, but what law isn't? If you feel abused by LE, then take them to court. That is your right. <small>[This message was edited by Cargile on May 28, 1999.]</small> [/QB][/QUOTE]
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