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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DT: [QB] The Chinese nuclear arsenal is negligible. They are a threat to India and Malaysia and Taiwan, where they have nukes pointed. They're no threat to the US. Right now, China could not take India in a one-on-one battle. They would be hard-pressed to take Taiwan by force (which is why they don't take it, incidentally, I have written an unfinished five page report on why China needs to but cannot take Taiwan, I should post it somewhere). China's military is backwards. Its navy is carrierless, it has no nuclear subs, it couldn't take the US PacFlt if the latter was run by Ensigns. The PLAAF has less flight time than most top rung airforces, and its planes themselves are much inferior to the Russian and US models, as they're essentially the old ones. As for the PLA, its tanks are inferior, its troops are poorer supplied. It couldn't take the US if it could reach it. If you are concerned about nuclear war, look no further than our old pals in Russia. The Chinese nuclear arsenal could barely take out the US major cities, if that. The Russian could destroy this world a few thousand times over. And it'd take less than a minute to re-aim them. The best thing that ever happened to you people was Chechnya. If it wasn't for the patriotic fervor whipped up there, the anti-west politicians - spurred on in popularity by the failure of capitalism and the brutal genocide enacted against Serbia - would've taken power in March. I'd love to see Genady Zyuganov with the ability to nuke this motherfucking planet. It'd be fun just for a laugh. Anyway, I ask you this. What does all that money spent on the military do to combat the nuclear threat? This reminds me of the moronic idea that you stop terrorism against the US by bombing the Middle East. No, you stop (or at least curb greatly) terrorism by getting the hell out of Isreal. Let's look at India. Why do they have nuclear weapons? Because China was becoming too much of a power. So they needed to settle it up. If the US gets larger, why wouldn't China want more nukes? If I'm the Chinese premier, I get those without hesitation. So, please tell me why China is a threat? If you'd like to refute my thesis that they are not a non-nuclear (conventional) threat, please do. I look forward to hearing your logic. If you'd like to refute my thesis that they are not as much of a nuclear threat as Russia, please do. I look forward to hearing your logic. If you'd like to refute my thesis that military spending does not curb a nuclear threat, please do. I am geniunely interested in hearing some opposing thoughts on that matter. Keep in mind though, this is not a partisan debate. This cannot detiorate into Republicns vs Democrats, Republocrats vs Leftists, etc. This is a strinctly analytical debate. As such, I have Daryus on my side!!! We're unbeatable! :-) I now leave it to Jay to provide the history lesson regarding the Cuban Missile Crisis. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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