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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JeffKardde: [QB] Omega, [i]Handguns[/i] I support a gun-free enviornment. This won't be accomplished until the black market in guns is abolished, and we get the guns out of the hands of criminals. It will be done. See, it all depends on how you interpret the right to own guns. When the Second Ammendment was written, the U.S. did not have a regular standing military as we do today (there are many arguments that our current military is, in fact, un-Constitutional in and of itself). There are no restrictions in Maryland regarding ownerships of Maryland ... obviously, it's illegal to own an M-16 or an MP-5 or those sorts ... I've got friends who own CAR-15s for Chrissake! The restrictions in Md. are on carrying -- in other words, if you're not in the military or a police officer, it is illegal to carry on your person a handgun. If you're traveling to the shooting range, the gun must be in the trunk or storage area, and any and all ammunition must be locked in the glove box. You know, I've WALKED around Baltimore at night, on the way to bars, etcetra. I'm not talking about Federal Hill or Fells Point, but some rather dangerous areas of the city. In dark. Baltimore's a dangerous city -- Clancy's descriptions in [i]Without Remorse[/i] are rather accurate. The drug trade thrives here, despite the BPD's best efforts otherwise. Baltimore ranks 3rd in the nation for homicides. Yet, I feel no reason to carry a gun for my own safety. I'm a fairly big guy, I work out, people leave me alone. I don't carry very much money on me, and I don't dress "rich" when I'm in Baltimore, therefore not drawing attention to myself. My Jeep is usually rather battered and dirty, so people don't feel the need to acquire a "new" vehicle by robbing me. I'm getting rather off tack here. I also deliver pizzas for a living. Two years ago, when I started working at Domino's in Columbia, two Papa Johns drivers were robbed at a delivery. One was shot through the jaw (she survived). You know what? Even then I didn't feel the need to carry a gun -- why? Because if you're a cautious driver (utilizing call-backs and the like), then you've no need to fear robbers. Cut back on the amount of money you carry on you (I never carry more than $20 as a bank, for example). Right. Off the point again -- I'm a bit of a windbag, can you tell? What studies show guns prevent crimes? You once quoted a number of 2,000,000, Omega, which you said was backed up by the FBI, yet a link you provided actually said the number was 80,000, so I doubt those studies you place so much faith in. And kindly tell me what is so wrong with requiring people to at least know how to use a firearm before they can buy one? Or be in the correct state of mind to own one? For some reasons, the NRA freaks out about this stuff ("WHAT? They want to limit us to 30-round clips? Dammit, we need FIFTY round clips!"). Frankly, if you can't hit a guy with TEN rounds much less THIRTY, you shouldn't own a gun in the first place, but ... [i]Church and State[/i] The church can be a great thing. It can also be a very BAAAAD thing. I grew up with prayer in school, but I went to St. John the Baptist School in Silver Spring for grades 1-6. It was nice, but I liked public school better. I don't think kids should be forced to say the Lord's Prayer every morning at 7:30, especially if some kids aren't Christian. Now, on the other hand, arguing for a moment of silence is something completely different. But [i]not[/i] prayer. It's forcing one's beliefs on those of different religions, and is therefore, very much un-Constitutional. Unless of course, you believe that America should be a Christian nation? [i]China[/i] I didn't say they had good reasons for executing 2,000 people. Well, I take that back. I'm sure they had very good reasons to do so. Same way Fidel would have a good reason to order an execution of someone speaking against him. [i]You have beliefs on what is right and wrong? How would they apply to the situation described? Is the outcome of said application acceptable to you?[/i] You know, I remember reading once in a newspaper where a cop shot and killed a teenager to prevent said teenager from shooting [i]himself[/i] in the head ... Suicide is sad. It's sad that people choose to take their own lives. It's sad that people can't look around them, and see how wonderful the world is, and to reach out and grasp it and laugh as loud as you can. There's nothing better than shifting into 5th gear as I race down Route 50 towards Ocean City, with the top down, and a gorgeous girl in the passenger seat, and the music blaring. Nothing better than laughing with a girl or some friends at a pool table as we drink beer and laugh away the stress of life. Nothing better then curling up in front of a fire with a good movie on the television as it snows outside, and your cats curled up on the couch next to you as content as ever. I can't even begin to put myself in a situation where I would even consider suicide. Omega, I can't answer that question, I just can't. It's not that I haven't tried, I [i]have[/i] ... but I can't. I can't place myself in that situation, so I won't judge him. I'm sorry, but that's an un-answerable question. And what DOES this have to do with abortion? [i]Republican Lies[/i] Considering its what he WON on ... <font size=10>READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES!</font size> And of course, what Quatre said above. <font size=1>Please somehow distinguish your remarks from others that you're quoting. It's a pain in the ass to have to read through the whole reply, trying to figure out what someone else wrote and you're quoting and what you're replying too, thank you</font size> [/QB][/QUOTE]
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