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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JeffKardde: [QB] Omega, Why exactly is a gun-free enviornment a bad thing? Is it because someone else might have a gun and shoot you? Oh, right, gun [i]free[/i] enviornment, NO ONE has any guns. Unless you're afraid of the US being invaded, in which case, we'd need guns to fight off enemy troops, right? Which country would invade us, exactly? Canada? Mexico? And do you conveniently forget our military? Or is that what you're afraid of? The United States military coming out and getting you? And why even worry about that? In the end, even the vaunted and feared soldiers of the Soviet Union turned against the generals leading them into a coup and listened to the impassioned words of one Boris Yeltsin, so why would soldiers of the good ole' U.S. of A be any different if ordered into such actions? And kindly do explain why you need a 30-round clip and kelvar-piercing (aka, cop killing) bullets to defend yourself? It's not like a CAR-15 conceals under your jacket very well, you know? Now, an MP-5, with a collapseable stock, yes, but ... darn ... that's only for police and military use. Good thing, too, its the prefered weapon of terrorists, did you know? Hey, who can blame 'em? Collapseable stock, they come in 10 milimeter firing capacity, silencers ... I don't fear walking around Baltimore at night. Why should I? Believe it or not, if you get mugged, the guy isn't going to pop you. He just wants your money, and then he'll be gone. I had a guy mug me once. He got the gun out and in my face and then realized the building I had just walked out of was the Baltimore County Police Headquarters in lovely central Towson, Maryland. Suffice to say, yes, it was scary (and I got SOOOO drunk that night), but it was strangely satisfying watch himself pee his pants as about ten cops drew on him. Talk to any cop, Omega. Cooperate, the robber'll leave you alone. Give him your money, and you'll be fine. It's not worth losing your life (or taking his) over a $20 bill. Have you ever killed anyone, Omega? Well, I haven't, but my grandfather has -- over in World War II. Nazis. Worst of the worst. Wanna know something? He still has nightmares about it, every now and then ... not so much anymore. He told me he can see every one of their faces on those nights. Those were [i]Nazis[/i] ... how would he feel if he gunned down some poor man who turned to a life of crime through an environment not his fault? <font size=1>Forgive me for the run-on paragraphs, I just came from "Dungeons & Dragons" and it was the worst movie I've ever seen in my whole life -- "Speed 2" was better than this, and that's saying a lot ... part of that may be because I never played "D&D", so nobody take offense and goddammit, I'm doing it again...</font size> John Lott, now there's a reliable source. If I gave a resource as being a speech or report or book by FDR, or Hilary Clinton, you'd shoot it down in a minute, but you expect others to accept a book by John Lott as a reference? Come on ... Me: [i]I don't think kids should be forced to say the Lord's Prayer every morning at 7:30, especially if some kids aren't Christian[/i] Omega: [i]Agreed[/i] Me: [i]But not prayer. It's forcing one's beliefs on those of different religions, and is therefore, very much un-Constitutional.[/i] Omega: [i]How exactly does praying around someone force beliefs on them? That's like saying I'm forcing my opinion on you, by telling you what it is. It's not possible to force beliefs or opinions on anyone. Certainly not be speech[/i] Is that so, Omega? Where do you get your beliefs from? Your parents? How do they communicate with you? By ... speech, right? The above statement proves what a ... (ad-hominem self-censored) you are. Kids are impressionable, do you not know that? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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