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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay the Obscure: [QB] [QUOTE][i]Let's make it a multi-national, heck even global effort so that every country in the world is protected from these from rouge ICBMs.[/i] Um... I DID answer that.[/QUOTE] Did you? Perhaps you could point me to your stealth answer then. [QUOTE]I've never quite figured this out: progressive in what direction? Progress towards what, exactly? It's another one of those meaningless terms.[/QUOTE] Thank you for proving my point. [QUOTE]Yes, he was, because he believed in a large government. When you're discussing politics within the US, you need to use terms that apply here to avoid confusion. Hitler may not have been a liberal in the sense that the term was used in 1930's Germany, but he's certainly a liberal by the definitions of 2001 America. [/QUOTE] That is, without a doubt, one of the most confused and uneducated passages I've had the pleasure to read. Thank you Omega for bringing a smile to my face and a chuckle to my lips. I would, however, seek clarification on one or two points. Hitler was a liberal. Ok, would you care to offer up anything in the way of proof for that statement? Let me see if I can anticipate a couple of things you might have brought up had you had the time. Hitler expanded the infulence of the German government to include road building programs. Why did Hitler build roads? To move troops? To further his military aspirations? Heck, even the Romans figured that out. They must have been the most "liberal" bunch in history! That would certainly make Eisenhower...damn him and those interstate highways. Military expansion and massive military work projects must therefor be a hallmark of liberalism. As a result, Frederick the Great was a liberal; Alexander the Great was a liberal; Abraham Lincoln was a liberal; Hideki Tojo was a liberal; Charlemagne was a liberal. But this takes the cake: [QUOTE]Think about it: the Democrats are liberal. You don't disagree with that, I presume. But the liberals never want to change ANYTHING. Notice how nothing major happened during the Clinton administration without GOP support? Thus the definition of liberal must be different than what you think it is.[/QUOTE] Democrats are liberal. Some are. Some are not. But I imagine that's a bit too complicated a way to view the world. As for not wanting to change anything. *shrug* I would conjecture that you are purposefully not reading and understanding history before posting. Since it seems that your memory only goes back to Clinton, then you can bring to mind the attempt to change the health care system. As for members of the opposition party working with president....well, that's the system we have isn't it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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