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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tahna Los: [QB] [i]Under Hitler, the government gained enormous power over the lives of the people. I'm guessing I won't get any argument over that one.[/i] Stupid Browser crash. I was writing a nice blurb for you to consider. The Nazis were an Authoritarion Government. Authoritarian Governments have power over people. It has nothing to do with Liberalism or Conservatism. Liberalism and Conservatism is a collection of economic and social ideas. Taxes, Gun Control, Social Programs, Medicare, The ideas on Chris Holt's site do not mention the size of government, only the fact that the citizens expect the government to make their lives easier. They do not expect the Government to abuse its power and make their lives a living hell. These ideas are basically the same as your federal government taking over aviation security. Yes, it is the government's constitutional obligation to protect its citizens from threats, but why did this not include Aviation security? (If you say the Democrats or Liberals were responsible, I swear I'll smack you.) One of the Liberal Ideas here is the Canadian Human Rights Commission, which mediates disputes and allegations of racism, sexism, and other forms of discrimination which prevents the complainant's right to equal service. Bigger government, right? Fine, I'll accept your argument there. But this is an example of how Liberalism is supposed to work. Same with Medicare. The thing is, the CHRC and Medicare ARE NOT instruments of Authoritarianism. The difference between Chretien and Hitler is that Chretien was given governmental power to help its citizens and give them what they want. Hitler was given governmental power, but abused it to force many of its citizens to live in perpetual hell. Did Hitler have these programs in his government? No. (Human rights during the Holocaust? right) And you still think he is a Liberal? Omega, I'll tell you straight, if you present these ideas to ANY political science class in ANY university, I will tell you that you will fail miserably. Then of course you will blame it on the Universities being under the power of the "liberal" government. Finally, from Chris Holt's site, the definition of "Liberalism" was derived from "Libertarianism". Of course, you know what Libertarianism is, so how the hell do you associate Hitler with Liberalism? To sum it up for your ahem.... thick skull.... Hitler = Authoritarianism. but Liberalism != Authoritarianism. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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