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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [QB] [i]You fully support the government and its laws, thus you condone the continued existence of racism.[/i] How does that follow? Remember, "I do not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." How is this such a difficult concept to grasp? I do NOT condone racism, but neither will I allow any attempts to eliminate it by any government, because a) that's impossible, because you can't legislate morality, and b) the attempt would, by nature, lead to the creation of thought police. Thus it would not achieve its stated goal, but would affect the rest of us. Read: BAD IDEA. [i]Never mind that black people are brutally slaughtered[/i] Excuse me? Brutally slaughtered? Oh, you're talking about that guy that was dragged to death a few years back. Name one law that could possibly have prevented that, please. THEN you might have a point, but not a second before. [i]So, that justifies it all, doesn't it? Let's see... 1). Government may not discriminate 2). Freedom of speech, freedom of religion In other words, that makes you a racist too.[/i] That's a total non sequitor. Complete gibberish. Again, this is why I like Canadian liberals (yes, by my definition, so let's not get into that again): they can express their thoughts rationally, and without resorting to unfounded personal attacks. USS: [i]Lee Kwan Yew's strong armed tactics could be considered a dictatorship. The laws in Singapore are extremely harsh, but then crime-rate is extremely low. Furthermore, Lee helped raise the average income of the Singaporean from 200 dollars or so to nearly 30,000 dollars.[/i] Oh, yes, of course. The average quality of life went up in the USSR and China after their respective revolutions, too, but that doesn't make up for the tens of millions dead. It's also important HOW the changes were made. [i]Okay, let me ask you this. The government imposes regulations on businesses all the time. Health codes, etc. etc. etc. How is this different?[/i] It isn't. The federal government doesn't have that right, either, nor can it issue a minimum wage. See, that's what we have unions for: to negotiate good wages and working conditions as a PRIVATE MATTER between employer and employee. It's none of the government's business, so long as a contract isn't violated. [i]"Liberals" as you call it would trace their ideas of a strong congress to Marshall. Is he simply wrong? Why is he so admired then?[/i] Why is FDR so admired? JFK's an even better example: the man did exactly NOTHING of legislative value during his term except cut taxes, and yet he's still dearly loved, and people like Bill Clinton base entire careers on emulating him. (Which might explain why Clinton ALSO did nothing, but that's a different topic. :) ) Anyway, your answer: probably because people simply don't know any better. :D Of course, it's also possible that only liberals admire him, because he created their entire flawed philosophy, or that other people admire him for totally different reasons. Lots of possibilities. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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