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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tahna Los: [QB] [i]I can do whatever I please with it, be that give it away, hoarde it, trade it for goods or services, or burn it[/i] Don't you need a permit to burn something or sell products, etc? Ya I know, it's a pain, but it is somewhat of an accepted reality....... [i]This anti-discrimination law impairs my right to do with my property what I please. It thereby takes control of that property away from me to a degree. Control IS ownership, regardless of what any papers might say. [/i] 1) It is not a law. The HRC does not enforce decisions on you. What it does is find out if you deliberately participated in an act of discrimination against the complainant. If it does, then it moves into legal proceedings like a lawsuit in which the HRC represents the complainant. Sometimes, the complainant can choose to go on its own, but that means they have to forget the HRC report. 2) Even with a Conservative or Libertarian government, you have to fill out permits for many things. So even in that instance, you don't have control, you're basically jumping the hoops of whatever government agency they direct you through. It's a pain, but it's reality. [i]You mean steal? No. They buy it at full market value (or higher) and if they don't, large stinks occur. It's relatively rare that anyone doesn't agree to sell for the price they're offered. One example, though, is that some idiot three blocks down from me was offered probably twice what his house was worth for his land, so they could build a library there. He didn't sell, God only knows why. So they built the thing three blocks further away, in a flood plain. But they didn't steal his house, by any means.[/i] 1) No stealing here. But whenever Government tries to buy their land to use in whatever project they want, words always scream "expropriation". Usually is because of some stubborn mule who is offered as much as 5 times the amount of his property but STILL won't move. I bet this happens down in the states as well. After all, this IS North America. 2) Some moron was offered 4 times the price of his house so construction can begin on a large clinic. He refused so many times that the architectural drawings were revised to accomodate the house. NOW he's trying to sell it for 4 times the amount but........ [i]Me: However, if you are providing a service, you are obligated to serve all citizens of society. Omega: No, because it's your labor, and your property. [/i] I'll take that partially back as many people who experience such discrimination don't report it to the HRC. And besides, as I said earlier, the HRC is not the law, nor is it an enforcement agency, it acts on behalf of the complainant to see if discrimination has occurred, etc. etc. Before you go on, only 5% of cases submitted to the HRC actually go through this process. [i]The Consitution doesn't guarentee that I have a right to put my feet on my desk. I have my feet on my desk at this very moment, and I doubt anyone will argue that I do not have that right. Look at the ninth ammentment some time.[/i] Your mom will scream at you for poor etiquette. Any Constitutional Challenges there? [i]Look, Jay, you can call up all the eronius court ruling and laws all you want, and it won't change anything[/i] 1) It's spelled Erroneous. 2) I can just imagine you as a judge. Are you saying that the courts are always wrong and your definition of law is always correct? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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