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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [QB] No, even the Norse gods weren't that sadistic. [i]I would... if crucifixion was the most horrible death ever conceived. It isn't.[/i] Yes, I worded that slightly wrong. It's the worst form of death that doesn't involve purposefully keeping the victim alive through modern medical means. [i]There are kids who suffer just as much as Christ on the Cross, but they do it EVERY DAY for YEARS.[/i] They don't have it done to them by others. [i]A few days, to thirty-odd YEARS. Sorry, but your boy just doesn't compare.[/i] Jesus: lived perfectly, died horribly anyway GF: lived imperfectly, still alive, and will be for the frseeable future, though in (considerably less) pain Yeah, maybe your GF has the worse situation, by your view of the world, but tell me something: what is your girl's one chance of being free of her pain? And who can do it for her? If that's not reason enough for you, I don't know what can be. [i]He set up ALL the entry and working conditions, including the 'fact' that one moment of stupidity and gullibility committed by two fruit-munching simpletons could doom an entire species -- yeah, THAT's fair and reasonable --, to eternal torment.[/i] OK, fine, blame Him for that, if you want to. But He's done everything possible to make up for it, so what more do you want? [i]I refuse to accept responsibility for things I did not create[/i] You have sinned. You HAVE to accept responsibility for that, because it's YOUR action. [i]He could have forgiven Adam and Eve, and put an end to it.[/i] It's a little more compliacted. God STILL can't be in the presence of sin. Jesus, by virtue of being the perfect sacrafice, is the perfect intermediary. But the perfect sacrtafice had to be made, and God made it. [i]The Bible is full of God doing things that can't be done.[/i] Can't be done BY US. Defying the laws of physics is nothing, because God created them. But math is totally abstract, and even the omnipotent can't change it. [i]Plus, there's always noneuclidean geometry.[/i] Which doesn't change the sum of two and two. [i]Lucifer can be in God's presence, and L's a sinner of the highest order, any way you look at it.[/i] Not if you cast out Job, which doesn't make any sense as part of inspired scripture. [i]If God couldn't be in the presence of Sin, He couldn't act in this universe at all, and the Deists would be right.[/i] That's where Jesus comes in. Jesus was "the Word", "Logos", the active force that carries out the commands of the higher power. [i]BY DEFINITION (yours) I should have been constantly in God's presence, and He in mine. Yet this clearly wasn't so.[/i] Says who? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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