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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Grokca: [QB] This case is a very hard one to come to terms with, Rosie just puts forth the argument that the ends justify the means. Is this the way laws work.,. I don’t think so. The US has stated that the detainees are illegal combatants, meaning that they are exempt from POW status. This in turn makes them civilians. Now the hard part comes, Terrorism is defined as” Systematic violence carried out against private citizens , public property and political enemies with the aim of enforcing demands.”. The US has stated that they have not declared war on Afghanistan, and there goal all along has been to demand that the Taliban turn over Osama bin laden and his cronies. Does not this make the whole attack in Afghanistan a terrorist act then. If on the other hand the detainees are solders then the US Coalition has attacked a government and its army and therefore the detainees are POW’s and should be afforded the rights. The geneva convention states “Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal”. It is not a matter of whether the government thinks they are not POW’s or not, it is a matter that a tribunal decide, therefore Rumsfeld’s statements that they will mostly be afforded the rights under the GC is braking the treaty. They should be unequivocally be given those rights until the tribunals have ruled one way or another. That means no interrogations until after the tribunals. It is not that I don’t think something should be done but at the beginning of all this after Sept 11, Bush was stating that this was an attack against democracy, and his way of life. Now the administration has decided that part of the fundamentals of that way of life, should be set aside and any means possible should be employed to fight this theat. The ends justify the means. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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