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[QUOTE]Originally posted by First of Two: [QB] RE: the Rest of the World (swiped from a couple of posts on another site, but all of which I agree with entirely. Thanks go out to the original posters, Dave Biggins and Dan Stack. They said it all far more eloquently than I have been able to.) [QUOTE] US vs. EU We share a common heritage. While we all have our own nuances, I believe that there is this overall "Western European Culture" that we all share. We're individualistic. We believe that governments are answerable to the people that they govern. We believe that religion, at the very most, should play only a periferal role in politics. We have so much in common that unfortunately the saying that "Familiarity Breeds Contempt" holds true. Both sides have to understand some things. Americans have to understand that Europeans fear being hit by errant fists. Terrorism is an old shoe to them with such elements as the IRA, ETA, and the Bader-Meinhoff Group. This, to them, is a law enforcement vice military issue. Our seeming dismissal of them is not making things easier. Ultimately, it will have to come down to diplomacy. Europeans need to understand that we haven't been this pissed off since Pearl Harbor. Most of y'all didn't mind that when we entered the war. We're trying to clean up situations where diplomacy has failed. The carrot is worthless without a stick and knowledge of what the stick does. [/QUOTE]RE: Non-European involved nations: [QUOTE] OK folks, there's a lot of you out there in the world that talk good talk about how buddy buddy you are with us, how you stand with the United States. But at the same time you take your peoples freedoms away, don't let them express frustration with your corrupt goverments - heck the only expression you allow them is to vent their frustrations at us, and you're their stroking those fires since it distracts them from you. And your richest 1% puts ours to shame - channeling money to terrorist organizations. Well folks, we were just attacked and maybe we're kinda silly, but we've always viewed these oceans on our east and west coasts as good marking points for our borders. And we get a little perturbed when people ignore those borders. Last time it happened it wasn't even a violation of the borders, it was the bombing of a naval base in the Pacific ocean. Perhaps you remember how annoyed we got at that one? Anyway, it just happened again, and we are going to get the people responsible. And we might ask you for help. And trying to be on both sides isn't going to cut it anymore. You can't say nice things to us and then not do anything. We're going to ask to use your airspace, we're going to ask you to seize terrorist bank accounts, shut down "charities" which fund terrorists. And based on who says yes and no we'll know who are friends. And we'll also know who is against us. I could be wrong, but that's how I see things. I personally wish the administration did more. The country second most behind this attack, just after Afghanistan, is in my opinion, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. If there ever was a country that talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk with regards to its friendship with the United States. And I suspect it is they who such remarks were directed at. And countries like Pakistan, which chose to side with the United States. The fact of the matter is other countries are for or against the United States. Does that mean we bomb everyone against us? No, I should hope not. But I hope we remember. And on both sides. I hope we are a good friend to those who do back us in our time of need. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]To be honest, we still feel threatened. What if Iraq supplies terrorists with a few bioweapons to be unleashed against the eastern seaboard cities? What if Korea supplies a nuke or two to be used against us. We have no reason to believe Iraq under its current leadership will ever make nice with us. These are countries which have the ability to do some pretty nasty stuff to us and the motive or desire to do so. That is why we don't attack France, Germany, or the UK. They may have the ability to hurt us, but they lack the inclination to do so. It is not just the possession of weapons of mass destruction, it is what we think they will do with them. Pre-emptive war need not be a bad thing. If Western Europe and America had stood up to Hitler and Stalin in the 30's, millions who died might have lived. [/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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