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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Orion Syndicate: [QB] Those are decent arguments mate, but all of that can be overcome. The thing about the world today is that economics rules the roost, and pretty much determines domestic policy. What is more important - maintaining our sovereignty or maintaining the status quo? Sterling is pretty strong and our exports are suffering because our goods are increasingly more expensive than everyone elses. Add to that the 30% tariffs just imposed on world steel by the US, and we're pretty well fucked. Companies are having problems here because we can't provide any stability. Why should they manufacture here and then expose themselves to exchange rate risk every time they export to Europe and the world when they can reduce that risk by basing their operations in the mainland and importing the stuff back here? Just look at James Dyson - he's upped sticks because he just isn't competitive by being here. The Nissan plant (in Sunderland I think) had to be bailed out by the government because they were losing so much aswell. This is what's happening whilst we argue amongst ourselves about this. We're a tiny little union of countries compared to what's out there and events have shown that economically, we can't do well on our own. We'll probably survive on our own but is that enough? I know your arguments were about the military and mine are economics but surely maintaining a sense of stability for business and therefore safeguarding jobs here is a worthy enough reason for further integration. I do agree that there are problems with joining but that doesn't mean that we give up every time we hit a dead end. We need to face those problems and find ways to tackle them because the benefits of joining IMHO are far more greater than what we could lose. I know that we may lose some power over decision making but it's the price we have to pay for maintaining our national sovereignty - as an influencial member of a strong and prosperous Europe. That doesn't mean that I agree with the way Europe is designed and run. Many of the institutions and the old farts that run them need overhauling. We can't change anything from the outside however, so we need to go in and then be a key reformer as part of the institution/s. It will take time, it will take a lot of effort but for fucks sake lets not give in to the warped arguments of the Save the Pound campaign. These same people were probably out campaigning to keep the Shilling and the rest of that old currency back in 1971. We changed then and got a lot out of it, we can get a lot out of it this time too, even if some people do believe that we should stay out in principle, even if it is in our intersts to join. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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