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[QUOTE]Originally posted by First of Two: [QB] It's the "rational" part we're worried about getting, IMHO. Quite frankly, a lot of us think you lot have already proven your irrationality by jumping on Kyoto, and assuming humans have a big impact on global warming (My 17,000+ anti-Kyoto scientists' link is still available). We've seen enough 'legislation through the courts' here, we don't want to see some fool country/organization suing us over our not signing Kyoto, and having this World Court write new international law (which is basically what it would be doing if it made any kind of judgement at all). [QUOTE](Assassinating our own leaders, funding private wars to suit our own interests, covering up scandals, not being popularly elected and somehow still being president anyway, etc.) [/QUOTE]Fortunately, we don't lead the world in ANY of these particular categories. I'm not talking about anyone in particular here, but I always find it amusing when a person from a parliamentary country says something about OUR leader not being elected by a popular majority. [QUOTE]United States also only freed its slaves in 1865 this was 32 years *after* the rest of the civilised world (or the British Empire as it was then known ) did so. [/QUOTE]If you're so civilized, why were you so close to supporting the slaveowning South? Because the Empire figured that if it weakened the States enough, (because if the South had seceded, that probably would have started a general breakdown) it'd eventually be able to reclaim its former colonies, that's why. [QUOTE]I'll assume that incudes women when I ask if in recent years the government of the United States, and in more recent times (under the guidence of the Mr. Bush) have upheld the words of the Declaration of Independence [/QUOTE]Well, let's see... of course, Conservatives have never really backed THIS particular diversion from the Declaration's statement that all people are endowed with the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but... Abortion certainly deprives a large number of people of 'life' each year, (far more than you'll see killed on Texas's death row) without trial, with no appeals, and with the only sentence being death. And most of the time it's for the sake of 'convenience.' At least when WE kill somebody, they've DONE something first. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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