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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phoenix: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Lee: [qb] Well, first of all, I'd sooner have a second chamber that we have some say in choosing, rather than an elitist group whose thinking is often based on the century before last;[/qb][/QUOTE]Actually, if you watch the proceedings of the House of Lords, they are a lot more concerned with the people than the House of Commons is. The Commons tend to vote based on what their party wants, whereas the Lords are concerned mostly with the bigger picture. To take a recent example, by far the biggest objections to the new anti-terrorist laws came from the Lords - the Commons just caved in to the Government's "we need to lock everyone up or we're all going to die!" threats, while the Lords objected that civil rights would be infringed in hundreds of ways. Similarly, the new Top-Up Fees legislation, which the people generally don't want, will most likely be rejected by the Lords, while the Commons, the ones who actually made manifesto pledges not to introduce the fees, let it through. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Lee: [qb]secondly, you think past Governments haven't tried to fill the place with their supporters? Look at how many ex-ministers from the last Conservative government were made life peers! Even Archer, and they all knew he was a crook! [/qb][/QUOTE]It's a lot harder to fill the House of Lords with supporters when there are 700 people whose seat there is hereditary and will be taken by their heir, not your appointee, when they die. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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