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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: [QB] [QUOTE]#1. The first flag was small enough that its identity was below the threshhold of visual acuity beyond 1400 feet, a distance the jets did not come within. It was shot off during the first attack, according to survivors' testimony.[/QUOTE]Which is irrelevent. Israeli pilots had already identified the ship as American, and even if they hadn't, NO Arab ship came ANYWHERE close to even looking like the Liberty - this includes the US Navy markings on the hull and the VERY distinct "moon-bounce" and other unique equipment mounted on the vessel. The day was clear and sunny. The Liberty was in INTERNATIONAL waters, and if it HAD been an Egyptian or other hostile ship, it is VERY unlikely that the Israelis would have left it alone for so long already after the beginning of the war. Even if we accept the excuse that they confused Liberty with El Quseir, keep in mind: a) Liberty had four times the tonnage of El Quiseir, and was twice the length. b) Liberty was painted grey, and flew American colors; El Quseir was SILVER and flew Egyptian colors. c) As an enemy ship, El Queseir's silhouette was available and known to Israeli pilots. It is unlikely that they would have confused it with something else. d) El Queseir had been OUT OF COMMISSION and waiting to be scrapped in Alexandria. In an interview on February 18th of this year, NSA Director Olivery Kirby stated that it was unlikely that Israel would not have been aware of the above facts. [QUOTE]#2. The 7x13 foot flag was then raised, but obscured by the huge amount of smoke billowing from the wreckage. This also according to eyewitness testimony.[/QUOTE]The Liberty itself could’ve been painted red white and blue and Israel STILL would have attacked. They were well aware the ship was not Egyptian: they attacked it because for whatever reason, an American spy ship was a threat to them. [QUOTE]#3. The first sighting of the US flag was made by an Israeli helicopter pilot 30 minutes after the attack was over. (Verifiable through the Israeli transcripts of the event.) [/QUOTE]Assuming they hadn’t seen the flag before the attack, you still have to explain why Israeli pilots failed to identify the Liberty based on site on the ship’s size and shape and markings (remember: even Israel admits they identified the ship that morning, then “moved“ its marker off a plotting table); why Israel jammed AMERICAN radio frequencies during the attack (if they thought they were attacking an Egyptian ship, why not jam, I dunno, Egyptian frequencies?), and why Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned Liberty motor-boats as well as targeting crewmen on the ship. (Of course, here’s another problem: at the range the torpedo boats were, the ship’s markings could hardly be ignored. So why would the torpedo boat crews machine gun American servicemen? If the initial attack had been an accident, maybe they should’ve said “oh shit, sorry ’bout that!” and not “fire at will!”) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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