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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Balaam Xumucane: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [qb] Well, compare it to, say, WWII where the "greatest generation" certainly did not adhere to such restrictions.[/qb][/QUOTE]My grandpa's always proudly telling that story where he opened up with his Thompson on that crowd of doe-eyed French villagers because he thought he saw Jerry. We all laugh and laugh at the good old days. Though there have been I think there have been [URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15899-2004Sep12.html]plenty[/URL] [URL=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/30/wirq30.xml]of reports[/URL] [URL=http://www.warblogging.com/archives/000630.php]of US soldiers[/URL] [URL=http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0304/15/asb.02.html]firing into crowds[/URL], it was specifically the aforementioned sub-accurate [URL=http://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php/topic/11/1443/2.html#000024]mortar[/URL] deployment of white phosphorous rounds (in civilian areas no less). Which, I suspect, was the point initially. Well, perhaps not THE point, but a A point. I do think we are arguing at cross purposes here. Bad things are happening to human beings on both sides in Iraq. We could argue all day about the level at which this is transpiring and never get anywhere. I think what Pinter (and many of us) find offensive are the reasons why this is occuring. The suicide bombings, and the leveling of civilian infrastructure searching for insurgents--these acts themselves are reprehensible enough. The deaths are horror aplenty. What I find truly terrorist are the mercenary motivations behind this 'armed conflict'. The transparent lies and subsequent revisionist history behind our motivations for the present conflict are, at best, dishonorable and ignoble--at worst putrescent and murderous. The craven use of ephemism and media manipulation to lessen the reality, to falsly justify the squandering of human life, and ultimately to conceal the ugliness of our corrupt intent only compounds our sins. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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