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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [qb] 1. Captured terrorists are not war prisoners. [/qb][/QUOTE]Bush has said literally [i]hundreds[/i] of times that we are AT WAR. If prisoners caputred during a war are not war prisoners, what are they? If they are not prisoners of war- and entitled to certain rights under Military Code of Justice (as affirmed by the Supreme Court last year) then the Gitmo prison is, by definition, a Gulag: [b]any prison or detention camp, esp. for political prisoners[/b]. Political Prisoners- making us just as bad as the so-called "Axis Of Evil" countries that inprison people without giving them fair trials or allowing the accused to face their accusers and review evidence being used against them. And if you're one of the people that believe the hysteria about the "dangers" of incarcerating such terrorists on US soil, I have some examples of terrorists that have been tried in Federal courts with all due process: [b] Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, convicted, 1996, U.S. District Court (before then-U.S. District Judge Michael Mukasey) -- plotting terrorist attacks on the U.S. (currently: U.S. prison, Butler, North Carolina); Zacarias Moussaoui, convicted, 2006, U.S. Federal Court -- conspiracy to commit the 9/11 attacks (currently: U.S. prison, Florence, Colorado); Richard Reid, convicted, 2003, U.S. Federal Court -- attempting to blow up U.S.-bound jetliner over the Atlantic Ocean (currently: U.S. prison, Florence, Colorado); Jose Padilla, convicted, 2007, U.S. Federal Court -- conspiracy to commit terrorism (currently: U.S. prison, Florence, Colorado); Iyman Faris a/k/a/ Mohammad Rauf, convicted, 2003, U.S. Federal Court -- providing material support and resources to Al-Qaeda, conspiracy to commit terrorist acts on behalf of Al Qaeda (currently: U.S. prison, Florence, Colorado); Ali Saleh al-Marri, accused Al Qaeda operative -- not yet tried, held as "unlawful enemy combatant" (currently: U.S. Naval Brig, Hanahan, South Carolina); Masoud Khan, convicted, 2004, U.S. Federal Court -- conspiracy to commit terrorism as part of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Islamic jihad (currently: U.S. prison, Terre Haute, Indiana); John Walker Lindh, convicted, 2002, U.S. Federal Court -- providing material support to the Taliban (currently: U.S. prison, Florence, Colorado). [/b] In fact, None of these convicted terrorists are inprisoned at Gitmo- "Supermax" facilities serve just fine and have [i]never[/i] had a escape. So there's [b]no[/b] reason to not treat prisoners of war as such unless you're looking for a loophole that allows for human rights abuses. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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