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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by TSN: [qb] <blockquote>"There's a flawed philosophical notion that if you steal a dollar from a poor man you've harmed him more than if you steal it from a rich man. That's a foolish idea, because you've stolen the same value from each."</blockquote> Okay, differences of opinion on how wealth should be distributed are one thing, but that statement was patently absurd. If you steal a dollar from a man who only has a dollar, you've stolen [i]all his money[/i]. If you steal a dollar from a man who has $10 billion, he probably won't even notice. If you honestly believe that stealing 100% of someone's money is [i]exactly as harmful[/i] as stealing 0.00000001%, just because the absolute number of dollars is the same, that's really messed up. [/qb][/QUOTE]That's the mantra of the ultra right- that big corportions and super wealthy people are hurting as much as everyone else in a recession- those "poor" billionaires should not have to "suffer" by paying the same taxes they did waaaaaay back under the Clinton administration. Also, the right complains about letting the tax break for billionaires expire (which they stopped)while, for the first time in history, we have LOWERED taxes during a war. Fuck- TWO wars- with hawks on the right calling for attacks on Iran to bring it up to THREE. All this while decrying how the Democrats supposeldy are "big spenders". Guardian, you want a Flat tax, fine- first you'll have to get all those corporations and billionaires to declare all their assets instead of being incorporated overseas. Many big businesses pay less in taxes than small ones because of that crap- and that's what paying their fair share is all about- paying what they REALLY owe, If they did that, and paid 2%, they would be paying far more than they did under Clinton and so the notion, while popular in conservative circles, will never happen. The very people you're defending will never allow it. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [qb] And if she said she was a victim of a media "Holocaust" instead, that would have been just fine with you too, right? After all, even though it describes a particular thing,[/qb][/QUOTE]I'll be kind and assume you knew that holocaust /= The Holocaust. The latter is the evil Nazi thing, the former is not. [/qb][/QUOTE]Bullshit. Really, go look up the use of the term- it's almost completely a slander against jews. Only this year, from republicans, has the term been applied as a gerneral term. [QUOTE]To him, corporations were thugs and plunderers, the Catholic Church was vulgar and corrupt, he was against bailouts but only because the little guy (read: him) wasn't included, he dissed "GW Bush and his cronies", and, the trump card, of course, is that the man was explicitly anti-capitalism. [/QUOTE]A sick mind believing all those things does NOT make him Liberal- he was not for social justice or elevating poor people- he just hated some of the things the far Left rail against, and so the right calls him "Liberal" as some slander against those who are. Liberals are not "anti-capitalism", and if that's what you tink, then it's time to watch someting besides FOX News. you're confusing "socialism" with "Liberalism"- just like you've been told to do by the right's spin machine. They aren't interchangable. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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