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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [QB] Okay, the devil's in the details, so let's get this straight. There were no Lt.Cmdrs in the movie 2. This was mainly because Bob Fletcher forgot to design a rank pin for them! Soon enough, fans reminded him of this omission, and he designed a Lt.Cmdr pin. That's the one shown in the above picture. Unfortunately, some unrelated sources had already dreamed up their own Lt.Cmdr pin, the one with the broken rung. This pin was never used in the movies, yet has erroneously perpetuated itself in reference works. The real Lt.Cmdr pin was seen on several characters, beginning with at least ST4. Valeris wore it while addressed as Lieutenant, which is a bit odd - it's very rarely that a Lt.Cmdr gets addressed that way, outside of angry dressings-down. Her replacement at Enterprise helm wore the same pip after Valeris had been taken to custody. Technically, though, it IS correct to say that nobody in movies 2 and 7 wore the pin or had the rank. It just isn't correct to say that nobody did that in movies 2 THROUGH 7. :) Timo Saloniemi [/QB][/QUOTE]
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