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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CaptainMike: [QB] Wow.. make a simple statement.. a-hem.. here we go.. in the portions of movies 2-7 which took place in the era of the red jacket uniforms, nobody was overtly addressed or identified in a script (in a canonical manner) as Lieutenant Commander. This doesnt mean there were no lieutenant commanders in the background, but if there were there is nothing that confirms to us there were. More confusion is, since the orginal costume designs neglected to include it, there is little decisive evidence as to what was intended to be lieutenant commander. But to examine the story, original drafts probably included Saavik, as a lieutenant commander.. when Saavik was removed from the part and Valeris created in her place, the producers intended for her to be a lieutenant, probably newly graduated from the academy based on Spock's comments. In fact, she was issued an academy red turtleneck. But her jacket bore the grey department color (another serious problem) and what is assumed to be a Lt. Cmdr. pin. This would correspond to the position Saavik was supposed to hold, Lt. Cmdr in ships services (science, nav, whatver.. they really werent clear on who got yellow and who got grey, since the only science officer we saw was spock who wore command white, and chekov wore grey to be a navigator but his true department was security) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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