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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrNeutron: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Proteus: [qb] Why does star trek need a gay character? Wheres the gay character on stargate? how about many other shows you can think of...[/qb][/QUOTE]Replace "gay" with "black" and it's an argument right out of (and fit for) 1962. Where were the black cast members on I Love Lucy? Where were they on Our Show of Shows? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Proteus: [qb] Im sorry. i just dont buy the fact that since there isnt a gay character on star trek, that the trek universe is anti-gay. We dont need a token gay character.[/qb][/QUOTE]And we didn't need those token minority characters on TOS neither! [QUOTE]Originally posted by Proteus: [qb] Frankly, i dont think its ground that needs to be covered. Personally, i dont think theres a need for a gay rights movement. People choose to be gay, people dont choose to be black when they are born. [/qb][/QUOTE]People don't choose to be male, female, blue eyed or hairy chested, either, but they are. And, if it were a choice, why on Earth (or any other planet) would someone make that decision, especially given how commonly it's persecuted? "Gosh I think I'll adopt a lifestyle that will make a lot of people hate me." What's the appeal? Why would and one choose it? Easy answer: they don't. People don't choose what they're attracted to any more than what smells entice or offend them. Do straight people [i]choose[/i] to find the opposite sex attractive? Do some men just decide "I choose to like big breasts"? That's just as ridiculous as thinking another man is going to consciously decide, "I choose to be attracted to other men". You don't make decisions about what gives you wood (or the female equivalent). [QUOTE]Originally posted by Lee: [qb]...no matter what they achieve, they never go away. Homosexuality at this point has about as much recognition and acceptance as it's had at any time, since, I dunno, the Sacred Band of Thebes, yet, do they give it a rest? [/qb][/QUOTE]Wasn't it only last week that the Supreme Court ruling meant that gays in Texas won't have to worry about being thrown in jail for doing something that was perfectly legal for straights? In most places in the US you can have a same sex partner for 20 years and have less rights than a bride on her wedding night. Fer instance: --Your partner ends up in the hospital and you probably may not have any say in regards to their medical treatment. --Inheritance...forget it, the law doesn't recognize your relationship, and family can contest any Will your partner left. --Medical benfits from your employer extending to your spouse? Forget that too. --And in a lot of the country if you walk down the street holding hands you'll probably get dirty looks, hurled epithets, maybe plenty or worse. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Seems like plenty of reason to keep yelling and screaming for equality. As to the subject, "Homosexuality in Star Trek - where is it?" still in the same closet it was in 1966. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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