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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kmart: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by PsyLiam: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by kmart: [qb] I used to always rank III & IV, the Nimoy-directed pics -- along with FIRST CONTACT -- as the worst Trekflicks[/qb] [/QUOTE]You are a madman. [/qb][/QUOTE]No, but I do have an eye for a well-composed frame, something that is largely absent from the Nimoy pics (odd, given his bent for still photography), and I loathe the way ILM took over designing so many elements in the Nimoy films. III is a squandered opportunity to do a really significant character piece and still deliver action ... it has the most absurd science ... it is much easier for me to buy into V's science goofs than III's ... 'get him off the planet and he'll stop aging ... does that mean if plot complication Q came in and moved the planet to a different orbit, it would stop aging? or if you just levitated a chunk of it 50 feet off the surface it would stop aging? Imbecilic writing, insulting in the extreme. You've got tremendous potential squandered visually (not having them tap into a klingon cam so that Kirk can SEE his son die, justifying his collapse, is so fucking stupid) and dramatically (esp w/ regard to how easily the Enterprise is sacrificed and the whole non-logic of beaming down to a disintegrating planet instead of to a damaged small-crewed vessel.) III needed a much better screenplay and a visual stylist who could at least deliver live-action that approximated the slickness of the fx. It needed somebody other than Bennett writing, that is for sure. IV is just a one-viewing movie that photographically is a disaster (nomination notwithstanding) with all that smoke everywhere (and I mean everywhere, not just the BOP -- check for the damn CLOUD BANK Chekov runs through while indoors aboard the carrier Enterprise.) It is funny at times, has a very nice series of payoffs at the end, and has zero resonance and a doze-off factor that is unbelievably high for me. FC is just pathetic. It has wonderful ship miniature fx, especially the PHOENIX launch and many E-E shots, but the lameass Cochrane stuff is like seeing Earl Holliman in FORBIDDEN PLANET -- but in 1996! And the 'let's give the stars scenery to chew' stuff is just over the top and embarassing -- 'the line must be drawn here' has got to rank among the alltime lamest line readings in feature trek, along with Shatner's 'Klingon Bastards in III and his variations on 'omigod' in TMP & TWOK. Apart from the continuing Picard/Data show aspect, FC is plain-out misstructured as well ... it would probably have worked better to have the E-E duck out on the continuing battle with the cube to chase the sphere back through time, so then an hour or so later we could have a more extended and exciting finale that involved the E-E returning to century 24 and helping destroy the cube at the END of the movie. If you can't see the validity of these points, then I put it to you that YOU are the madman. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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