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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [QB] Ok, here we go on another chronological spin [i]a la[/i] [URL=http://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php/topic/6/2406/3.html#000031]this one[/URL]. Once again, please be prepared for some rehashing: <big>[b]BASIC ASSUMPTIONS[/b]</big> [list] [*]Kirk's 5-year mission ran from 2265 to 2270. [i]Icheb mentioned in "Q2" (VGR) that the mission ended in 2270.[/i] [*]The 24th century sequences of [i]Star Trek Generations[/i] occur in 2371. [i]Seven years after TNG's first season, stated in "Conspiracy" (TNG) to have taken place in 2364.[/i] [*]More specific dates take precedence over less specific ones. [i]You'll see how this comes into play.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2273[/b]</big> [list] [*][b][i]Star Trek: The Motion Picture[/i][/b] [i]18 months (2.5 years) after the end of the 5-year mission.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2273-2278[/b]</big> [list] [*][i]The Okudas conjecture that Kirk commanded a second 5-year mission following TMP, based on the fact that the film was originally to serve as a pilot for the [/i][b]Star Trek: Phase II[/b][i] television series. There is no canonical reference which confirms or refutes this, but if it did occur then Kirk's retirement would most likely follow it.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2278-2282[/b]</big> [list] [*][i]At some point within this range, Kirk retires from Starfleet.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2282[/b]</big> [list] [*]Kirk meets Antonia near his uncle's farm in Idaho on Earth. The two will fall in love. [i]Eleven years prior to the launch of the [/i]Enterprise-B[i] (2293) as stated in GEN.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2283[/b]</big> [list] [*]A bottle of Romulan Ale, which Dr. Leonard McCoy will eventually give to Kirk for his birthday, is vinted. [i]Vintage was read off the bottle in TWOK.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2284[/b]</big> [list] [*]Kirk returns to Starfleet, joining the staff at the Academy. [i]Nine years prior to the launch of the [/i]Enterprise-B[i] (2293) as stated in GEN. We know he became Academy staff from TWOK. As you can see, we're already past either of the two "alternative" dates for TWOK. Looks like the GEN writers were looking at their copy of the [/i]Chronology[i] when they dropped in Kirk's references. More's the pity, considering that the date the Okudas had for TWOK wasn't supported by anything prior to said references.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2285[/b]</big> [list] [*][b][i]Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan[/b][/i] [i]This is the "official" date, but it admittedly *could* have taken place near the end of 2284, although that makes the spacing of the dates for the next three films even more unlikely. 2285 allows time for Kirk to become established Academy faculty, etc., anyway. But it does stretch all the "15 year" references to actually mean 18 years, if we accept that "Space Seed" (TOS) occurred in 2267, which we should, since it was in the second half of TOS's first season. Perhaps Kirk thinks of the 5-year mission not in terms of the individual years it comprised, but simply as one block of time which ended 15 years earlier, in 2270.[/i] [*][i][b]Star Trek III: The Search For Spock[/b] We don't know exactly how much time passed between these two films, but it was enough time for Saavik and David to transfer to the [/i]Grissom[i] and for most of the battle damage sustained in TWOK to be repaired. As mentioned by another poster, the second digit of the stardate changed between films, but the same change occurs with each successive film, so unless you want to say there is a full year between III and IV, and similarly between IV and V, I don't recommend placing much significance on this. Besides, the stardates aren't consistent between films. (Witness Carol Marcus' Genesis report having been made a year before TWOK but with a stardate lower than that of TMP or the [/i]Enterprise[i] flight recorder giving a stardate for Spock's death lower than the one stated at the beginning of TWOK.) Face it people, stardates [b]do not[/b] make sense.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2286[/b]</big> [list] [*][b][i]Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home[/b] Again, the official date, supported by Gillian's statement that she had "300 years of catch-up learning to do" following their return from 1986. Needless to say, that's not a particularly specific figure, but 2286 works if TWOK and TSFS were both in 2285, since the most specific placement we can give TVH is three months after TSFS, as stated by Kirk's opening log.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2287[/b]</big> [list] [*][i][b]Star Trek V: The Final Frontier[/b] Of any of the "official" dates, this one is probably the most arguable. Some have argued that it actually takes place only three weeks after TVH, given Kirk's line to Scotty when they come aboard that he had given Scotty that amount of time to get the ship fixed up. But we don�t know how long it took the ship�s flaws to present themselves after they flew off at the end of TVH, anymore than we know where exactly they were flying off to.[/i] [/list] <big>[b]2293[/b]</big> [list] [*][b][i]Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country[/b] 27 years after McCoy became ship�s surgeon aboard the original NCC-1701, in 2266. Whether by coincidence or design, this also fits nicely with Geordi having said in "Reunion" (TNG) that the Klingons and Romulans had become enemies circa 2292, explaining the willingness of the Romulan government to destabilize the Klingon government in the film.[/i] [*][b][i]Star Trek Generations[/b][/i] (23rd century events) [i]78 years prior to the 24th century events of the film.[/i] [/list] Yeah, sorry I took so long with that. Been a busy day. -[b]MMoM[/b] :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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