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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [qb] Almost immediately after I posted above, I began to develop a sneaking suspicion that I had gone through this in more detail before. So I ran a little search and, sure enough, [URL=http://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php/topic/6/2605/3.html#000037]BINGO![/URL]: [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Topher: [qb]The [i]Pegasus[/i] was supposed to be a [i]Cheyenne[/i] class vessel. The script reflects this, even the sets reflect this. But when they couldn't build a detailed [i]Cheyenne[/i] model in time, they used the [i]Oberth[/i] model (also, the [i]Crazy Horse[/i] was also supposed to be a [i]Cheyenne[/i], thus the 5xxxx registry). [/qb][/QUOTE]This is only partially correct. It is true that the [i]Crazy Horse[/i], after being mentioned by name only in "Descent, Part I" (TNG), was listed by Okuda as [i]Cheyenne[/i]-class and assigned a registry of NCC-50446 in the first [i]Star Trek Encylcopedia[/i] and only later appeared as an [i]Excelsior[/i] in "The Pegasus" (TNG). It is also true that the [i]Pegasus[/i] herself was originally intended to be a new design of ship, but it was not that of the [URL=http://ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/cheyenne.htm][i]Cheyenne[/i] Class[/URL]. Rather, it was an [i]Ambassador[/i]-derived design, as can be seen in [URL=http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/646/pegasus_concept.jpg]this sketch[/URL] by Rick Sternbach. When this was not allowed by the budget, the [i]Oberth[/i] model was used instead. While it is true that a [URL=http://tng.trekcoremedia.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=163&pos=220]display[/URL] on the [i]Pegasus[/i] Engineering set appears to show what might be four nacelles, I know of no official record citing a connection between the ship and the [i]Cheyenne[/i] design. The display may indeed have been created by Okuda, one of the very few people on staff who would have had any idea what the [i]Cheyenne[/i] looked like, (or even that it existed, modelled by Ed Miarecki and named by Okuda himself for use in "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II" [TNG]) but no other evidence for the oft-repeated fandom tale that the [i]Pegasus[/i] was supposed to be a [i]Cheyenne[/i] exists AFAIK. No TNG script makes any mention whatsoever of "[i]Cheyenne[/i] class" in reference to any ship, nor does any episode's dialogue, although another Okuda-generated [URL=http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/646/redlist.jpg]display[/URL] from "Redemption, Part II" (TNG) establishes that the class does exist and that the ship from BoBWII (the [i]Ahwahnee[/i]) was of it. Unless anyone has further evidence in support of the claim, I tend to think that this little urban legend got started through confusion between the established background stories of the [i]Pegasus[/i] and [i]Crazy Horse[/i], which both coincidentally culminated in the same episode, perhaps furthering the confusion. -[b]MMoM[/b] :D [b]P.S.[/b] I forgot to mention that a further point which might have contributed to the [i]Pegasus[/i]-as-[i]Cheyenne[/i] theory is the fact that her registry number (NCC-53847) is of comparable range to that of the number assigned to the [i]Crazy Horse[/i] (NCC-50446) in the [i]Encyclopedia[/i], where (as mentioned) the latter was also listed as a [i]Cheyenne[/i]. -[b]MM[/b][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]I looked at that display for the Pegasus and the nacelles look nothing like the one's on the Cheyenne. Hell I don't even know if those were nacelles on the display. Furthermore, I find it interesting that the Grissom model was mislabeled "Oberth"-class. Assuming a new model was built, we would then find ourselves calling the Grissom model a Grissom-type Starship or just Grissom-class Starship. :cool: [/QB][/QUOTE]
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