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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dukhat: [QB] [QUOTE]I was a little distracted by the various plotholes (such as why one drop of red matter creates a black hole that will sometimes destroy a planet but still send a ship back in time intact while a whole giant glob of red matter will create a smaller black hole that will destroy a ship but not send it back in time).[/QUOTE]When Spock shot the red matter into the Hobus star/supernova, his ship and the Narada were sucked into the resulting black hole after the fact. When Spock's ship crashed into the Narada, the red matter was detonated [i]inside[/i] the Narada. That's two totally different scenarios. Anyway, I went to see the movie again with my father. He really liked it (but he also liked Nemesis, so his credibility is somewhat suspect :) ). Although I pretty much felt the same way I did on the first viewing, one thing that kinda irked me this time was the Spock/Uhura thing. The relationship was fine, but the kissy-face was a bit annoying. Some other tidbits: - Nero's wife was tattooed as well! So strike yet another observation down from the "Countdown" comic, which stated that Nero's crew only got tats after Romulus was destroyed as a symbol of mourning. Apparently Nero, his crew and his wife were all members of some worker-class caste, and they had the tats from the get-go. - I definitely heard the ship names Hood, Farragut, Antares, Walcott, and Truman, so five of the seven other Starfleet ships are accounted for (six, if you count the wrecked saucer with the name "Mayflower" allegedly printed on it). - After seeing the film again, I definitely believe that the Enterprise is larger than its TOS/TMP counterpart. I doubt it's 2500 feet, but it is bigger. - The scene with the Romulans on the drilling rig that Kirk and Sulu fight off: Their uniforms reminded me of something, especially the two-toed boots one guy wears. Then it hit me: they looked like Klingon uniforms! I think they stole Klingon clothing in the deleted scene on Rura Penthe (remember, Nero was sporting just rags in the trailer with the two Klingon guards). This is one scene that they really need to put back in, since they even mention the prison planet and the 47 ships Nero destroys in the dialog, and it would better explain where Nero was in his 25 year absence. - Ship analysis: I could better see the Kobayashi Maru scene with the ships (I first saw the movie on IMAX, sitting in the front row, so I had a lot of head-turning which was why I missed a lot). The Klingon "warbirds" looked remarkably like regular D-7's, and the KM seemed to look astonishingly like this ship: http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/neutronicfuel_kobyashimaru.jpg I could definitely make out a Kelvin-style nacelle above the saucer. There are seven other major Starfleet vessels besides the Enterprise: three with round Kelvin-type saucers but with smaller nacelles under the saucer; one three-nacelled ship with Kelvin-type nacelles and a saucer with cuts in the back; two ships with half-saucers and two Kelvin-type nacelles above the saucer and two secondary hulls below the saucer; and one final ship that looks like a half-saucer with four nacelles (although this could also be another of the previously described ship...not too sure about this one). All the ships can be seen for a few seconds on the viewscreen before they go to warp. As I said before, the two clearest ships were the three-naceller and one of the two-nacelled, two-secondary hulled ships. I'm not sure I buy that the Narada was a "simple" Romulan mining vessel from the 24th century. It looks nothing like a Romulan ship, and it's just fucking huge. But hey, it was better than the Scimitar. P.S. Here's some caps of some of the new ships. http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/341/newship1.jpg http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/341/newship2.jpg [/QB][/QUOTE]
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