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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Tom: [QB] [QUOTE]Starting with the thing with Scotty re: Kirk in "Generations". It was pointed out to him that when Scotty was rescued 75 years later, he thought Kirk was still alive, Braga said 'So what? That was only one episode. Who's gonna remember something like that?'... It this lack of respect for the integrity of the universe he's being allowed to play in and the lack of respect for his audience's intelligence that irks me here. How easy would it have been to add ONE extra line for Scotty as he and the others are staring out of the hull breach along the lines of 'Despite this, I know he's not dead...'?[/QUOTE] Actually, Ronald D Moore took full responsibility for this error on his AOL talkback a few years ago. The internet has a built-in prejudice against Braga and so it automatically blames him. But in this case it's pretty clear the fault was not his. I'd rather RDM and BB had invested more time on making the film more entertaining (because, it, well, wasn't) rather than plugging every potential continuity abrasion first and making a good movie second. Continuity is like side-dish... tasty as hell, but only worth having beside a fat, juicy main course of entertainment. [QUOTE]Then he reprised his performance in writing "First Contact". Initially, he wanted to make Cochrane a woman to be Picard's romantic interest for the film. Again, it was pointed out that we met Cochrane in TOS and he was in fact a MAN. Again, his response was 'So? That was a single episode thirty years ago. Who's gonna remember that?', but fortunately he got vetoed by those above him. Lily was written in to be the romantic interest.[/QUOTE] Well, the "so what, it was a single episode" incident has been run through the fandom wringer so many times we have no idea how much truth is behind it. I would be very angry about a continuity error of that magnitude, yes. But it didn't happen, and we have no reason to believe it will happen again under today's conditions. The only person "above" Braga when it came to crafting the FC story was Berman. If he blocked it then, then who's to say the same thing can't happen on Enterprise? Braga has certainly never blew out any continuity bolts of that size since then. [QUOTE]but that got thrown away utterly following the warp flight, as we saw him groovin' and boozin' wit' the Vulcans in the final scene. *sigh*[/QUOTE] So, would-be introspective figureheads can't have fun? It was a great scene. I'm fine with it. [QUOTE]So you see, it is Brannon Braga's lack of respect for a basic tenet of storytelling[/QUOTE] Continuity may well be a basic tenet of storytelling, but I'd put it further down the list to originality or theme or effective dialogue. Get them in place first, then turn attention to avoid stepping on toes. [QUOTE]the audience that he seems to be actively trying to alienate that is rubbing us the wrong way. We were wary when we found out he was going to be co-creating "Enterprise", but we were willing to give him a chance... And he flipped off all of us again. [/QUOTE] Believe it or not, people on the web aren't the only people who comprise the audience. I think the people who have enormous issues with the Klingon issue are the sort of people who never gave Braga a chance in the first place. [QUOTE] And so we end up here... In a television environment where I'd rather watch reruns of Babylon 5 (episodes that I've already seen at least half a dozen times and have on tape to boot) than the final episodes of Voyager. Where I am consistently enthralled by the stories spun on Farscape and The West Wing... and consistently bored by the formulas retreaded by the hacks at Paramount.[/QUOTE] That's your choice. If everyone else felt that Enterprise couldn't possibly be watchable, I doubt very much that Paramount would have gone ahead and dropped millions upon millions of dollars on this sries. [QUOTE]And with Babylon 5 and Farscape moving arc-format television to the next level[/QUOTE] Oh, certainly the next level. Under 2 million viewers an episode, gee, that must be catching on like wildfire. [QUOTE] Star Trek is too intellectual for mainstream audiences, and has become too mainstream for intellectual audiences.[/QUOTE] Oy! Oy! Arrrgh! 20 million people would watch TNG. They were mainly intellectual people. Today they watch other series. 4 million people generally watch Voyager. Most of them also watched TNG, and are often dissatisfied that the overall level of quality and intellectuality have declined. The 16 million who don't watch Voyager are also fairly intellectual, but they're not avoiding Voyager because it makes more continuity errors than TNG (it probably doesn't significantly differ). Branding people who care about 35-year-old lines of dialogue more than holistic quality as "intellectual" and rejecting everyone else is an arrogant and stupid assertation. Being mainstream and being intellectual are not mutually exclusive. TNG was generally both; Voyager was generally neither. Indeed, I'd speculate that TNG was mainstream [i]because[/i] it was intellectual; indeed in the sea of crap dramas that dominated the early nineties, it was basically one of very few intellectual dramas on TV. Today, there are other intellectual dramas on TV and they tend to be more interesting than the TNG rehashes on Voyager. Enterprise needs to be interesting and captivating. I want that first. I want continuity too, but that shouldn't be the priority. [QUOTE]Look around the net. You will find next to no one eagerly awaiting "Enterprise", but lots of breathless anticipation for "Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers", "Buckaroo Banzai: Ancient Secrets and New Mysteries", and "Battlestar Galactica: The Second Coming".[/QUOTE] The latter three are all "cult" shows that have a disproportionately large segment of their audience online. Opposition to "Enterprise" is mainly coming from the deepest darkest recesses of Trek geekdom, largely because of the continuity issues or because they're still deluding themselves thinking that some sort of 25th century tech-fest would be better. This is only a small segment of Trek's audience (even today, let alone when diluted down with the other people that may rejoin the Enterise audience) and is far over-represented online. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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