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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Peregrinus: [QB] The Adelphi stuff from "Tin Man" had NOTHING to do with Klingons. And a while back I said: "Star Trek is too intellectual for mainstream audiences, and has become too mainstream for intellectual audiences." To which The_Tom replied: "Oy! Oy! Arrrgh! 20 million people would watch TNG. They were mainly intellectual people. Today they watch other series. 4 million people generally watch Voyager. Most of them also watched TNG, and are often dissatisfied that the overall level of quality and intellectuality have declined. The 16 million who don't watch Voyager are also fairly intellectual, but they're not avoiding Voyager because it makes more continuity errors than TNG (it probably doesn't significantly differ). Branding people who care about 35-year-old lines of dialogue more than holistic quality as "intellectual" and rejecting everyone else is an arrogant and stupid assertation." Wow. Totally offbase interpretation or what? *ahem* I did not anywhere in my post say that continuity nuts were intellectuals or that the rest of the audience wasn't. Don't be dense. I was referring to the reason NBC rejected "The Cage" way back when, and what came from that -- a series that dealt with many serious issues in a safe fantasy environment. Star Trek's core audience back in the 60s, 70s, and 80s were engineers, college students, and others who fell under the general blanket term "intellectual". These were/are people who enjoy a good story, yes... but one that has the critical C� factor crobato mentioned above. When the stories get dumbed down (and while continuity is part of this, it is a small part), that audience drifts away. Get it now? And then...: "Being mainstream and being intellectual are not mutually exclusive. TNG was generally both; Voyager was generally neither. Indeed, I'd speculate that TNG was mainstream because it was intellectual --" Forgive me. I should have elaborated. By "mainstream" in this context, I meant the "lowest common denominator" among the viewership -- e.g., those people who wrote in after seeing "The Jem'Hadar" wondering what the Enterprise was doing there [the Odyssey], where was Picard, and wasn't the Enterprise destroyed in that last movie I went to see...? People who can watch and enjoy a show they might never have tuned in to before and might never tune in to again, who can just let the story wash over them without once engaging their minds. "Enterprise needs to be interesting and captivating. I want that first. I want continuity too, but that shouldn't be the priority." My point is that it also shouldn't be ignored where inconvenient. Why is it asking too much to suggest the writers write within the "guidelines" Trek history has created? That would be like me writing about the Revolutionary War and saying Norman Schwartzkopf would be a more dramatic general than George Washington. Maybe, but that ain't the way it happened. Why is established Trek history less valid? Shall we just declare the entire Original Series "apocryphal" so as to avoid any future tedious continuity sticking points? Or if not, then where do YOU suggest the line be drawn? Okay, and why is your opinion more or less "right" than mine about where the line is to be drawn? Or Bernd's? Or Braga's? Believe it or not, it IS possible to tell enthralling, dynamic, dramatic stories without rewriting Trek history. We had lots of Orion pirates and smugglers back then -- and they were enough of a threat that Our Heroes were still wary of them in TOS... We have the proud warrior race that was the pre-Federation Andorians. Wonder what their reaction to offworlders was... See? We don't need Klingons to bring conflict into the setting, and we don't need the familiarity of the Klingons to make the show engaging. Pointy-eared Vulcans, blue Andorians with white hair and antennae, pig-nosed Tellarites, green Orion slave women... Who needs anachronistic turtle-heads? [IMG]http://flare.solareclipse.net/wink.gif[/IMG] --Jonah [/QB][/QUOTE]
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