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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Tom: [QB] Jonah: Firstly, thanks for the clarificaition on the mainstream vs. lowest common denominator. AFAIK, there was pressure to make Voyager more LCD-friendly from on high as the ratings slipped but Berman held out commendably to prevent the show from slipping too deeply in wrestling territory. Every indication from the multitude of End-of-Voyager interviews seems to point at the producers acknowleging Voyager slipped a bit in this department and efforts would be made to return to Gene's vision anew, which is by definition non-LCD. Now, as it's been often pointed out, they said the very same thing about all the other series, but this time there's a gun to their heads. Trek is in a "must-win" position for the first time in a while, and a lot of Paramount cash is riding on getting back numbers. Rather than going LCD and cashing in, so far it looks like the suits want the show to aim for the lost TNG-ers. If this fails initially, might Berman get pressured to crank up the sex & violence and do whatever is neccessary to get warm bodies in front of televisions? I hope not. Voyager had no significant differences in its "criminal record" for breaking TOS continuity than TNG or DS9. Big TNG episodes could pull 20 million people, big Voyagers are lucky to get 6. I just can't agree with the sentiment that people stopped watching because intra-series continuity was going out the window. 15 million people did not tune out because Ronald D Moore, perhaps the most openly pro-TOS writer in Trek, wrote a line in "Relics" that implied Kirk was alive at the time of Scotty's disappearance and then wrote a scene in Generations that proved otherwise. 15 million people did not tune out because Janeway and co. arrived in 1996 LA and didn't see evidence of the Eugenics Wars. In order to consistently notice more than one or two of such gaffes, most people would have to own a Chronology or Encyclopedia. I doubt 15 million people own one of these and run upstairs to check that nothing was inadvertently changed after every episode, and after checking their running tally see a swing for the worse decide to watch B5 instead. It's really quite simple. Somewhere between "Caretaker" and the end of Voyager's second season, a lot of people said "Y'know what, this stuff isn't that interesting. I'd rather watch something else." And they did, and trickled away to arguably better series that probably had nothing to do with science fiction, by crobato's self-imposed definition or by anyone else's. Perhaps it was repetitive storylines, perhaps it was poor writing/acting/etc., perhaps it was boredom with Trek, perhaps it was a combination of these things that did it. But whatever it was, Trek lost a large body of people who were great guys (and girls) who loved Roddenberry's vision just as much as we do. I know a lot of them. I think they deserve another good Star Trek show. If Enterprise can fit that bill, then good. If it's shit, let's find fault in it. But the sort of pre-judging of the show that a small minority of the fans are doing right now is utterly destroying the credibility of the net as a place where Trek can be intelligently discussed. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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