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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Siegfried: [QB] Red Admiral, you presume too damn much. I grew up on The Original Series, thank you very much. And a lot of the stuff you and others are harping on is [b]trivial[/b] crap. The date for Klingon first contact is 2218 are guessed by Okuda when he wrote the Chronology. THERE IS NO ON-SCREEN EVIDENCE TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE CORRECT DATE! Okuda even says that this date was CONJECTURE. There was a line of dialog in "Day of the Dove" that said something about first contact with the Klingons being disastrous. Somewhere else, there was "fifty years of aggression." This is backed up by Spock in Star Trek 6 talking about "seventy years of hostilities." But what a damn second, here. We have talk of aggression and talk of the first contact, but the two were not uttered at the same time! Let's add to this in the episode "First Contact" where Picard talks about first contact with the Klingons occurring "centuries ago." Let's talk about the transporters now. There is, likewise, no established on-screen evidence of the invention of the transporters either! The date arrived by Okuda was, once again, CONJECTURE! We have Geordi's dialog of transporter psychosis having been elimenated "a century ago." Once again, no canon evidence that having transporters in 2150 is contrary to the Trek timeline. Let's talk about the four days to Q'onos at Warp 4.5 comment. Sternbach in an interview admitted that NONE OF THE SERIES HAS EVER STRICTLY ADHERED TO THE TIME-SPEED MEASUREMENTS! Deep Space 9 is supposed to be on the edge of Federation space, but the Defiant sure could get to Earth in a hurry. Same with the Enterprise-D. She should could get to Earth and much anywhere else in a hurry, too. I would have figured that those of us trying to explain the new Enterprise would have drilled this your heads by now but the new ship IS NOT CONTRARY TO THE TIMELINE! We only know of one, ONE!, ship from that era: the Daedalus. This new ship could very well be a comtemporary of that time period. To say otherwise would be for to say that a Ford Explorer is contrary to the real universe when all you've ever seen is a Chevrolet Cavalier! In summary, you are basing your arguments of Star Trek: Enterprise being against Trek history SOLELY on non-canon dates that people guessed about. They may have drawn their conclusions from the episodes and movies, but IT IS STILL NON-CANON CONJECTURE! If it's non-canon, IT IS OPEN TO INTERPRETATION! You're also basing your objections to the ship itself based on non-canon ship designs and by the evidence of only ONE ship that we know of canonically from that time period. ONE SHIP IS NOT AN ADEQUATE SAMPLE! If you think Berman and Braga are just screwing with Trek history for the hell of it, go right on thinking that. I don't give a damn what the hell you think. But until that series premeires, you have not one iota of proof that they are intentionally screwing with Trek history. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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